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3 years ago  ::  Aug 12, 2019 - 2:20PM #201
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Aug 12, 2019 -- 2:06PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

Aug 12, 2019 -- 1:33PM, felipe27point5 wrote:

Aug 12, 2019 -- 1:26PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

Aug 12, 2019 -- 10:52AM, felipe27point5 wrote:

Aug 11, 2019 -- 10:59AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

Aug 11, 2019 -- 10:51AM, prof. quiz wrote:

Aug 10, 2019 -- 9:40AM, NY23 wrote:

Walmart Pulls Violent Video Game Displays But Will Still Sell Guns

Hahaha! So the Walton's believe that a violent video game is at fault for influencing these horrific mass shootings but the actual tools used to commit these heinous acts are fine?

Walmart sucks in so many ways.

Of course they don't believe that.  They are attempting to appear to be combatting the issue without actually doing anything.  This is PR plain and simple.

Is that the case for all conservatives blaming video games? Or just Walmart?

The greatest generation participated in the carnage of WWII, I would hope that nobody is naive enough to think that violent entertainment isn't responsible for real violence.  If you think art and entertainment can be that corrupting it doesn't speak well of your opinion of mankind.

I'm sorry, red and blue highlighted sentences seem to be saying the exact opposite points about each other. Can you please take another crack at it and be a little more clear with what your actual thoughts on it are? I don't want to misunderstand you and go down a rabbit hole you don't even think

Either I wrote that wrong on my phone without going back to proof read or auto correct got the better of me again.  I don't blame entertainment for violence, I blame the individuals that commit violence for violence.

I certainly think that art can be impactful, and there are certain places you just shouldn't go with something targeting kids. I remember a level on Call of Duty Modern Warfare a number of years ago where in single player you get to participate in a mass shooting at an airport. That was messed up. I was playing it as an adult thinking "this feels very wrong" and frankly it was fairly disturbing. We know things are impactful. We know tobacco companies targeted children with their advertising. We know capitalist companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars on superbowl ad campaigns. Either media/art/entertainment can have some kind of impact, or capitalist companies flat out waste money by giving it away to marketing agencies. 

I'm able to listen to a radio ad for Low testosterone and "guys, it'll help in the bedroom too" and not buy anything, but at the same time there are people that are. Over a wide enough scale these things have some measurable impact.

But with that said, i don't think mass shootings are the direct result of a level in a call of duty game. They probably help desensitize, they can increase aggression, they can mess with moral systems, and they can do this on a wider scale for children or at risk individuals. There probably are some negative effects that can play out in some people, but there are bigger problems to be addressed. Should we ban Call of Duty? Absolutely not. Should we be tasteful in how we create and market the games? Absolutely yes. Movies change production, marketing, and scripting after terrorist acts or mass shootings, so doing that with other media and art is probably fair. 

With Walmart in particular, it's ridiculous that they stop advertising for video games, and keep selling guns. 

You are welcome to recall my posts when it becomes that i'm proven wrong as long as we judge it on the merits of what we knew to be true at the time it was posted.
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