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3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:14PM #61
dixieyank
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There are over 300 million people in the USA, and somehow a handful of horrific events by some mental midgets now equates us to "white supremacy problem"???


It's no wonder why I can never associate with you Democrats anymore than I can the Republicans... You guys don't do logic at all.

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:21PM #62
theregime
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Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:14PM, dixieyank wrote:


There are over 300 million people in the USA, and somehow a handful of horrific events by some mental midgets now equates us to "white supremacy problem"???


It's no wonder why I can never associate with you Democrats anymore than I can the Republicans... You guys don't do logic at all.






It goes beyond the handful of incidents. There are white supremacists who don't express their beliefs through violence. 

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:35PM #63
dixieyank
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Aug 5, 2019 -- 6:45AM, yankoldfan wrote:



You are correct in what I said, but still again and for the last f**king time, I will be the first one to turn my AR in if they call them in... My AR was gifted to me by my GS and it would sure look bad if I told him the gift he gave me I just turned it in when no such guns were called in... You, I know I'm suck a dangerous man because I own a AR, that I have not one shell that that gun shoots, it's never been out of the box unless I show it to someone.. I have several guns, I collect Henry Golden Boy Lever Action guns, from with most are still in the boxes they come in, I collect other guns, especially older guns, it's a hobby, not a means for me to protect myself from anyone one or anything.. And yes I still don't think the average person should be owning any AR style gun, I would never buy one, and I wouldn't even have one if my GS, who spend four years in the military and thought it would be a nice gift to his Grandfather that collected guns...


Now if you can't understand what I'm saying, you are indeed one mixed up dixie chick... 




This is where you obviously don't use any logic at all to go along side your preaching to others.


But then again, the resorting to trying to insult with slurs is telling of your mental capacity I suppose. Perhaps others were right to refer to you as "old fool"...

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:37PM #64
dixieyank
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Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:21PM, theregime wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:14PM, dixieyank wrote:


There are over 300 million people in the USA, and somehow a handful of horrific events by some mental midgets now equates us to "white supremacy problem"???


It's no wonder why I can never associate with you Democrats anymore than I can the Republicans... You guys don't do logic at all.






It goes beyond the handle of incidents. There are white supremacists who don't express their beliefs through violence. 




and?..


3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:40PM #65
dixieyank
Posts: 6,948

Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:09PM, theregime wrote:



It's not contrived. 


People always cling to mental health when it comes to things like this. 




Whether diagnosed problem or not, it's pretty obvious that anyone who would take a gun into a crowd and start spraying bullets, killing randomly, is not of a normal healthy brain. 


Just because a doctor doesn't diagnose you with cancer, doesn't mean you don't have cancer.....

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:49PM #66
theregime
Posts: 345

Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:37PM, dixieyank wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:21PM, theregime wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:14PM, dixieyank wrote:


There are over 300 million people in the USA, and somehow a handful of horrific events by some mental midgets now equates us to "white supremacy problem"???


It's no wonder why I can never associate with you Democrats anymore than I can the Republicans... You guys don't do logic at all.






It goes beyond the handle of incidents. There are white supremacists who don't express their beliefs through violence. 




and?..





And it doesn't mean there isn't a white supremacy problem. 


3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 12:54PM #67
theregime
Posts: 345

Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:40PM, dixieyank wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:09PM, theregime wrote:



It's not contrived. 


People always cling to mental health when it comes to things like this. 




Whether diagnosed problem or not, it's pretty obvious that anyone who would take a gun into a crowd and start spraying bullets, killing randomly, is not of a normal healthy brain. 


Just because a doctor doesn't diagnose you with cancer, doesn't mean you don't have cancer.....





The problem is people often tie these actions to mental illness which creates the idea that they just snapped or lost it it or are off the grid. These manifestos aren't jibberish scrawled on pieces of paper. Any recordings of these shooters aren't incoherent words being shouted out. These guys seem people aware and content with the violence they are causing. 


The cancer comparison is a bad one.

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 1:08PM #68
Max
Posts: 11,078

Aug 5, 2019 -- 11:19AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Did anyone heard Trump's statements this morning? Denouncing white supremacy?  Hard to believe what I heard when he himself is a racist/bigot. His rhetoric emboldens white supremacist and those sitting on the fence to take action.


In not so many words, Trump's action demonstrates his concerns for the browning of America.  His solution is to send "breeders" back to where they came from. White nationalist  have another remedy to the same problem...shoot them, make them fearful, whatever it takes to stem the tide.


Trump didn't pull the trigger, but his continuous racist remarks is heard to provide those a reason to take up arms. As we heard in his rallies hyping up the attendees to a fever pitch shouting...shoot them!!! 


I wouldn't be surprise if he walks back his words.  




Why would you be? It wouldn't be the first time he says one thing one day then says something different a few days later. He's just trying to give his critics a pacifier. If anyone still had any doubts, he's rhetoric at his rallies the past couple of weeks has lifted the vial of who he is. It's as plain as day to see who he really is. That is, except for those who are part of his delusional base who he continues to lie to, con, and treat like idiots. 

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 1:09PM #69
Max
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Aug 5, 2019 -- 11:54AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 11:38AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 11:19AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Did anyone heard Trump's statements this morning? Denouncing white supremacy?  Hard to believe what I heard when he himself is a racist/bigot. His rhetoric emboldens white supremacist and those sitting on the fence to take action.


In not so many words, Trump's action demonstrates his concerns for the browning of America.  His solution is to send "breeders" back to where they came from. White nationalist  have another remedy to the same problem...shoot them, make them fearful, whatever it takes to stem the tide.


Trump didn't pull the trigger, but his continuous racist remarks is heard to provide those a reason to take up arms. As we heard in his rallies hyping up the attendees to a fever pitch shouting...shoot them!!! 


I wouldn't be surprise if he walks back his words.  




I find that Trump's words can incite violence and that he is most likely responsible for the actions of a portion of the shootings ... but I also think we can't just put a blanket on all of the shootings that says Trump ... as I told Bertram, the Ohio shooter shot his sister along with the other people ... and Obama was very upset about so many shootings long before Trump took office.




Lets face it, racism and bigotry is part and parcel of America's history.  There is no going around it.  Unlike Trump, previous presidents denounce it...striving for unity as a country. Trump promotes devisiveness demonstrating resentfulness that is clearly heard.




No one knows yet what the Ohio shooter motives were, except that he's nuts. The El Paso shooter had a clear racist motive. Obama called for stricter gun laws. Trump loves to hear himself talk and tweet, but he's silent when it comes to talking about tougher gun laws. Your post is well said Lauren. Trump is all about divisiveness. Mo is right too, his words can incite violence. At the very least his words have also embolden white supremacists. 

3 years ago  ::  Aug 05, 2019 - 1:10PM #70
Max
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Aug 5, 2019 -- 12:00PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 11:38AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Aug 5, 2019 -- 11:19AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Did anyone heard Trump's statements this morning? Denouncing white supremacy?  Hard to believe what I heard when he himself is a racist/bigot. His rhetoric emboldens white supremacist and those sitting on the fence to take action.


In not so many words, Trump's action demonstrates his concerns for the browning of America.  His solution is to send "breeders" back to where they came from. White nationalist  have another remedy to the same problem...shoot them, make them fearful, whatever it takes to stem the tide.


Trump didn't pull the trigger, but his continuous racist remarks is heard to provide those a reason to take up arms. As we heard in his rallies hyping up the attendees to a fever pitch shouting...shoot them!!! 


I wouldn't be surprise if he walks back his words.  




I find that Trump's words can incite violence and that he is most likely responsible for the actions of a portion of the shootings ... but I also think we can't just put a blanket on all of the shootings that says Trump ... as I told Bertram, the Ohio shooter shot his sister along with the other people ... and Obama was very upset about so many shootings long before Trump took office.




There are lots of firers burning is this country right now (sick people), donald always seems to find a way to fan those fires.. I'm not going to blame donald for all of this, I blame the person that fired the gun, but when you have people shouting out of the crowds at some of donald's rallies saying what to do with the illegals and they say shoot them, and all donald does is smile and shrug his shoulders, I find that inexcusable on his part..




Yeah he smiled and said something stupid like only in the panhandle can someone get away with that. What he should have said is that's not what America is about and we don't do things that way.

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