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Cashman's Crystal Ball
3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 12:49AM #1
CHL59
Posts: 4,399
Can't help but wonder how Brian Feels right now about his forsight not to spend the big bucks that they wanted. Brian said Kershaw: PASS, Machado PASS, Harper: PASS. All three went for the money and Brian said PASS!  Those three will be watching the Yankees play in the ALCS on their couch.
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 1:00AM #2
Jon
Posts: 5,470

Oct 10, 2019 -- 12:49AM, CHL59 wrote:

Can't help but wonder how Brian Feels right now about his forsight not to spend the big bucks that they wanted. Brian said Kershaw: PASS, Machado PASS, Harper: PASS. All three went for the money and Brian said PASS!  Those three will be watching the Yankees play in the ALCS on their couch.



Actually, Brian had to be convinced by everyone to get Lemahieu. He was going to pass on DJ.


www.nj.com/yankees/2019/10/how-yankees-g...


Yankees assistant GM Michael Fishman, director of quantitative analysis David Grabiner and director of baseball operations Matthew Ferry all were fascinated by DJ LeMahieu, a free-agent second baseman last winter who had been a batting champ, won three Gold Gloves and went to two All-Star Games playing for the Colorado Rockies.


All three repeatedly encouraged Cashman to consider LeMahieu for a new role as a heavily-used utility infielder. They’d heard that LeMahieu was eager to join the Yankees without a starting job, but getting Cashman onboard to explore this option wasn’t easy.


“We already have a second baseman,” Cashman kept saying when LeMahieu’s name repeatedly came on during meetings.


Eventually Cashman was talked into at least asking others that he trusted about LeMahieu. He talked with Yanks special GM assistant Jim Hendry, who was the Chicago Cubs GM for the first part of LeMahieu’s rookie season in 2011. He talked to Cubs current GM Theo Epstein, who replaced Hendry in July 2011 and traded LeMahieu to the Rockies that December for veteran third baseman Ian Stewart.


When both Hendry and Epstein raved about LeMahieu’s skills, work habits and character, Cashman realized this could be a good addition at a good place. On Jan. 11 – 10 days after the Yanks rolled the dice signing injury risk star Troy Tulowitzki as a possible fill-in for Gregorius – LeMahieu was a surprise signing for $24 million over two seasons.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 1:28AM #3
CHL59
Posts: 4,399

Well thankfully he had the sense to listen. Bottom line, he passed on those guys, and we got DJ and that is what matters. Lots of Yankee fans were all over Cashman to go after all three of those guys at one time. I was not one of them. I feel Harper is over rated, Machado is a punk and plays dirty at times, and never would fit on the Yankees and Kershaw would want more than he would be worth for his talent level at the time. He was another older player that wanted to be paid for what he did, not for what he is projected to do now and down the road.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 5:10AM #4
dougiebone
Posts: 315

Unfortunately, he also passed on Chad Morten, Patrick Corbin and Gerrit Cole over the past couple of offseason decision making and it has left our rotation very vulnerable in long series. Thankfully, the Rays are bailing him out by extending the Astros rotation to the limit and the compromised position of their starters will allow us to probably to finally edge them out.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 5:26AM #5
njyf
Posts: 1,051

Remember all the people that were whining about getting Harper, Machado and every big name free agent that were available?


Funny how the Nats kept getting bounced from the playoffs when Harper was there but they actually go further without him and the team that spent the big bucks on him didn't even make the post season. Ditto with Machado.


Maybe one day some of these fans will realize that signing the biggest free agent names does not always help the team. Something about taking up all the oxygen in the room. Maybe that does have some truth to it. Trout, zero championships (his teams never even gets in the post season), Harper, zero championships. Machado, zero championships. The list goes on.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 5:33AM #6
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 21,683

Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:10AM, dougiebone wrote:


Unfortunately, he also passed on Chad Morten, Patrick Corbin and Gerrit Cole over the past couple of offseason decision making and it has left our rotation very vulnerable in long series. Thankfully, the Rays are bailing him out by extending the Astros rotation to the limit and the compromised position of their starters will allow us to probably to finally edge them out.




How has Corbin, Keuchel, or Greinke pitched in the postseason?  Morten is over 35, show me the post where fans wanted him in the off season.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 6:56AM #7
hampfan
Posts: 3,699

Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:33AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:10AM, dougiebone wrote:


Unfortunately, he also passed on Chad Morten, Patrick Corbin and Gerrit Cole over the past couple of offseason decision making and it has left our rotation very vulnerable in long series. Thankfully, the Rays are bailing him out by extending the Astros rotation to the limit and the compromised position of their starters will allow us to probably to finally edge them out.




How has Corbin, Keuchel, or Greinke pitched in the postseason?  Morten is over 35, show me the post where fans wanted him in the off season.




I did, LL, it was sometime last winter. I didn't care about his age, since he stated he wanted a two-year contract, no more than that. I wasn't happy over our lurking 3 LH starting staff, but quickly realized that sentimentality necessitated keeping CC this season, so I didn't persist in wanting to go for Morton. And of course, I had no reason to think Severino would get injured and that the RH German would succeed as well as he did.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 8:05AM #8
bumper
Posts: 11,054

Oct 10, 2019 -- 6:56AM, hampfan wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:33AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:10AM, dougiebone wrote:


Unfortunately, he also passed on Chad Morten, Patrick Corbin and Gerrit Cole over the past couple of offseason decision making and it has left our rotation very vulnerable in long series. Thankfully, the Rays are bailing him out by extending the Astros rotation to the limit and the compromised position of their starters will allow us to probably to finally edge them out.




How has Corbin, Keuchel, or Greinke pitched in the postseason?  Morten is over 35, show me the post where fans wanted him in the off season.




I did, LL, it was sometime last winter. I didn't care about his age, since he stated he wanted a two-year contract, no more than that. I wasn't happy over our lurking 3 LH starting staff, but quickly realized that sentimentality necessitated keeping CC this season, so I didn't persist in wanting to go for Morton. And of course, I had no reason to think Severino would get injured and that the RH German would succeed as well as he did.




clearly hindsight being 100% ... i'm good w paxton but would have preferred morton over happ. but i think morton living near tampa in the off-season played a part in it. also since we had picked happ up at the deadline - he had pitched very well for us and stabilized our rotation - they decided to go with the devil they knew. no one expected his drop-off. clearly at this point, morton is one of the eilte pitchers in the game and the rays essentially stole him.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 8:15AM #9
hampfan
Posts: 3,699

Oct 10, 2019 -- 8:05AM, bumper wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 6:56AM, hampfan wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:33AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:10AM, dougiebone wrote:


Unfortunately, he also passed on Chad Morten, Patrick Corbin and Gerrit Cole over the past couple of offseason decision making and it has left our rotation very vulnerable in long series. Thankfully, the Rays are bailing him out by extending the Astros rotation to the limit and the compromised position of their starters will allow us to probably to finally edge them out.




How has Corbin, Keuchel, or Greinke pitched in the postseason?  Morten is over 35, show me the post where fans wanted him in the off season.




I did, LL, it was sometime last winter. I didn't care about his age, since he stated he wanted a two-year contract, no more than that. I wasn't happy over our lurking 3 LH starting staff, but quickly realized that sentimentality necessitated keeping CC this season, so I didn't persist in wanting to go for Morton. And of course, I had no reason to think Severino would get injured and that the RH German would succeed as well as he did.




clearly hindsight being 100% ... i'm good w paxton but would have preferred morton over happ. but i think morton living near tampa in the off-season played a part in it. also since we had picked happ up at the deadline - he had pitched very well for us and stabilized our rotation - they decided to go with the devil they knew. no one expected his drop-off. clearly at this point, morton is one of the eilte pitchers in the game and the rays essentially stole him.




bumper, since the Rays have such a low budget restriction, to compensate they must have some very smart scouts for both FAs and minor-league players--especially pitchers.

3 years ago  ::  Oct 10, 2019 - 8:21AM #10
bumper
Posts: 11,054

Oct 10, 2019 -- 8:15AM, hampfan wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 8:05AM, bumper wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 6:56AM, hampfan wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:33AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Oct 10, 2019 -- 5:10AM, dougiebone wrote:


Unfortunately, he also passed on Chad Morten, Patrick Corbin and Gerrit Cole over the past couple of offseason decision making and it has left our rotation very vulnerable in long series. Thankfully, the Rays are bailing him out by extending the Astros rotation to the limit and the compromised position of their starters will allow us to probably to finally edge them out.




How has Corbin, Keuchel, or Greinke pitched in the postseason?  Morten is over 35, show me the post where fans wanted him in the off season.




I did, LL, it was sometime last winter. I didn't care about his age, since he stated he wanted a two-year contract, no more than that. I wasn't happy over our lurking 3 LH starting staff, but quickly realized that sentimentality necessitated keeping CC this season, so I didn't persist in wanting to go for Morton. And of course, I had no reason to think Severino would get injured and that the RH German would succeed as well as he did.




clearly hindsight being 100% ... i'm good w paxton but would have preferred morton over happ. but i think morton living near tampa in the off-season played a part in it. also since we had picked happ up at the deadline - he had pitched very well for us and stabilized our rotation - they decided to go with the devil they knew. no one expected his drop-off. clearly at this point, morton is one of the eilte pitchers in the game and the rays essentially stole him.




bumper, since the Rays have such a low budget restriction, to compensate they must have some very smart scouts for both FAs and minor-league players--especially pitchers.




agree, it's hard to imagine any team having a $64 mil payroll and achieving that kind of success - a real tribute to the organization. many of those guys are scrap heap pick ups. for example, the mets tossed d'arnaud away. how 'bout ji-man? and they've always been good at developing young arms. morton is their top payed guy at $15 mil. kiermaierer is next at $ 8 mil and no one else makes more $5 mil. amazing ...

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