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2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 3:01PM #1
Jon
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Luke Voit’s name has come up in trade discussions the Yankees are having with various teams, reports the YES Network’s Jack Curry (via Twitter). Voit is currently on the injured list with a bone bruise in his knee, but he’s nearing a return to the active roster.


It’s been an injury-marred season for 30-year-old Voit, who missed the first month-plus after undergoing surgery to repair a meniscus tear and then quickly landed back on the injured list with an oblique strain. This is his third IL stint of the year, and that trio of maladies has combined to limit him to 29 games and 122 plate appearances.


Voit got out to a slow start when he initially returned from knee surgery, but he was hitting quite well prior to his most recent knee troubles. In 17 games and 72 plate appearances from June 22 through July 11, Voit slashed at a .281/.361/.453 clip with a pair of homers, three doubles and a triple. That’s still a far cry from Voit’s powerhouse showing in 2020’s shortened slate of games. He appeared in 56 of the Yankees’ 60 contests last summer, hitting .277/.338/.610 and pacing all of Major League Baseball with 22 home runs.


When he’s at his best, Voit is a force to be reckoned with at the plate, but some of the Yankees’ recent dealings and rumored targets call his fit with the lineup into question. New York, for instance, has been repeatedly linked to Rockies shortstop Trevor Story in recent days. MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand tweeted not long ago, in fact, that the Yankees’ interest in adding Story is quite real. However, acquiring Story would likely necessitate sliding Gleyber Torres to second base, thus pushing DJ LeMahieu to first base, where Voit is traditionally stationed. The presence of Joey Gallo, Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton crowds the DH scene, and if New York’s reported interest in Kyle Schwarber manifests in a trade, that would only further muddy Voit’s role.


Voit is playing the 2021 season on a $4.7MM salary and will be due a raise in arbitration this winter. The lack of playing time and diminished production from his injuries will curb his earning power to an extent, but it’s fair to expect his salary to climb north of $6MM. He’s a Super Two player, so he’ll be eligible for arbitration in each of the next three offseasons before reaching free agency upon the conclusion of the 2024 campaign.

2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 3:06PM #2
GottaGoToMo
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Very interesting.

2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 3:56PM #3
qwik3457
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IF they can trade Voit, they might be able to fit Story, or a good starting pitcher, under their luxury tax payroll cap, because as part of the deal with Texas, the Rangers are picking up the $2 million left on his contract for this year.

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2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 4:03PM #4
laurenfrances
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Via Curry... 2 hrs ago


Luke Voit has drawn interest in trade discussions the Yankees are having with multiple teams. Voit is on the verge of returning from the IL. Led the majors with 22 HRs last season, but has been limited to 29 games this season.

2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 8:12PM #5
Jon
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Voit is finished as a Yankee, looks like.
2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 8:19PM #6
qwik3457
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Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:12PM, Jon wrote:

Voit is finished as a Yankee, looks like.



If the Rizzo trade goes through officially with the Cubs picking up the rest of his contract, and they trade Voit, then they can fit a decent-sized contract, or the last 1/3 of a season of it, under the cap. This bring Story or a good starter back into play.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 8:58PM #7
yankoldfan
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Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:19PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:12PM, Jon wrote:

Voit is finished as a Yankee, looks like.



If the Rizzo trade goes through officially with the Cubs picking up the rest of his contract, and they trade Voit, then they can fit a decent-sized contract, or the last 1/3 of a season of it, under the cap. This bring Story or a good starter back into play.




Bringin Rizzo aboard make me wonder why they would want Story, he just adds to something we don't need right now ...If Rizzo is going to move to first base, that moves DJL back to second, and pushes Odor to the bench, I actually like our infield right now, Gio, Torres, Odor and DJL at first... In all honestly, the guy that needs to be taken out of the lineup is Stanton, he's like giving up an out more frequently than not...

2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 8:58PM #8
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Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:19PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:12PM, Jon wrote:

Voit is finished as a Yankee, looks like.



If the Rizzo trade goes through officially with the Cubs picking up the rest of his contract, and they trade Voit, then they can fit a decent-sized contract, or the last 1/3 of a season of it, under the cap. This bring Story or a good starter back into play.




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From MLB Rumors: The Yankees To Acquire Anthony Rizzo



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5:47 pm: In exchange, Chicago will pick up two prospects — outfielder Kevin Alcantara and right-hander Alexander Vizcaino –– Curry reports. He adds that the Cubs will retain the entirety of Rizzo’s remaining salary.


5:29 pm: The Yankees are nearing a deal to acquire Anthony Rizzo from the Cubs, reports Jack Curry of the YES Network (Twitter link). The trade appears to be complete, with Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic reporting that Rizzo has been informed of the move.


It’s a surprising strike for the Yankees, who just yesterday swung a deal for another corner bat in Joey Gallo. The front office continues to bolster the offense, adding another above-average hitter to a lineup that has underperformed expectations over the course of the year. It doesn’t hurt that Rizzo — like Gallo — hits from the left side, adding balance to an order that was extremely right-handed heavy two days ago.


Rizzo is no longer the hitter he was at his peak, but there’s no doubt he’ll be a boost to the Yankees order. The 31-year-old is hitting .248/.346/.446 (115 wRC+) with 14 home runs across 376 plate appearances. He’s been an above-average bat in every season of his career, outside of a brief run as a rookie with the 2012 Padres. Rizzo doesn’t strike out often, punching out in just 15.7% of his plate appearances this season while making contact on an above-average 81.8% of his swings. Both figures are right in line with his career marks.


Those bat-to-ball skills should appeal to fans concerned about the Yankees’ whiff-heavy offense. New York has a 24.5% strikeout rate as a team (excluding pitchers), the sixth-highest mark in MLB. The acquisition of Gallo only figures to boost that mark (although the slugger more than offsets the whiffs with huge power and walk totals), but Rizzo’s much more likely to put the ball in play, albeit without as much impact of some of the Yankees’ other middle-of-the-order players. Rizzo still makes plenty of hard contact, that hasn’t translated into huge extra-base output this year. His .198 ISO (slugging minus batting average) and barrel rate are both above-average but no longer elite.


Of course, the Yankees’ incumbent first baseman is among the right-handed power types throughout the order. Luke Voit led MLB with 22 home runs in 2020 and is reportedly nearing a return from the 10-day injured list. His name surfaced in surprising trade rumors this morning, though, and it now seems fairly likely he’ll find himself on the move before tomorrow afternoon’s trade deadline. With Rizzo at first base and Giancarlo Stanton at designated hitter, there wouldn’t seem to be much room for Voit.


New York could see a Voit transaction as a way to clear some payroll space. The 30-year-old is making $4.7MM this season (with a matching luxury tax number) in his first year of arbitration. He’s still due around $1.6MM of that money for the rest of the year. Voit is controllable for three additional campaigns in arbitration.


Clearly, New York is working extremely hard to stay below the $210MM luxury tax threshold. New York’s CBT figure is a bit below $206MM, in the estimation of Roster Resource’s Jason Martinez. New York has gotten the Rangers and Cubs to absorb the entirety of Gallo’s and Rizzo’s respective salaries as part of their ongoing effort not to take on any additional obligations.


Of course, doing so requires parting with more talented prospects. The Cubs seem to have done well in adding Alcantara and Vizcaino, both of whom ranked among the top 15 prospects in the New York organization on Baseball America’s midseason update. Eric Longenhagen of FanGraphs also ranked the duo highly, slotting Alcantara as the sport’s #120 overall prospect entering the year.


Alcantara, a 19-year-old outfielder, draws praise for his projectable frame and chance to grow into big power. A center fielder now, he might grow out of the position, but he’s a high-upside addition to the lower levels of the Cubs’ farm system. Alcantara’s playing in the rookie level Arizona Complex League, so he’s years from the majors — similarly to the group of players Chicago picked up from the Padres in last winter’s Yu Darvish trade.


Vizcaino’s a nearer-term addition. He’s topped out at High-A, but the changeup specialist is already 24 years old and was selected to the 40-man roster last offseason. He still has a pair of minor league option years remaining after this season. Longenhagen suggests his delivery likely points to a bullpen future, but he’s been a starting pitcher to this point in his career. Vizcaino hasn’t pitched much this season due to injury, but he tossed 115 innings of 4.38 ERA ball across two levels of A-ball back in 2019.


Alcantara and Vizcaino makes for a solid return on-paper, since Rizzo will hit free agency at the end of the season. There’s no question, though, that his departure will be a bitter pill to swallow for many Cubs’ fans. Rizzo was one of the faces of the Cubs’ most successful runs in decades, and a beloved figure on the 2016 World Series team. For many on the North Side, it’ll hurt to see him go — no matter the regard of the players they received in return.


It’s likely only the beginning for Chicago, who still figures to market Kris BryantCraig Kimbrel and perhaps Javier Báez within the next day. Like Rizzo, Bryant and Báez will reach free agency at the end of the season, and the Cubs are obvious deadline sellers. Chicago has reportedly made some efforts at a Báez extension, but that was also true of Rizzo and ultimately didn’t come to fruition. The Rizzo trade is the biggest move yet in should be a series of transactions for the Cubs in the coming hours.



2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 9:03PM #9
qwik3457
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Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:58PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:19PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:12PM, Jon wrote:

Voit is finished as a Yankee, looks like.



If the Rizzo trade goes through officially with the Cubs picking up the rest of his contract, and they trade Voit, then they can fit a decent-sized contract, or the last 1/3 of a season of it, under the cap. This bring Story or a good starter back into play.




Bringin Rizzo aboard make me wonder why they would want Story, he just adds to something we don't need right now ...If Rizzo is going to move to first base, that moves DJL back to second, and pushes Odor to the bench, I actually like our infield right now, Gio, Torres, Odor and DJL at first... In all honestly, the guy that needs to be taken out of the lineup is Stanton, he's like giving up an out more frequently than not...




You,re right. Trading for Rizzo takes Voit off the team and almost certainly knocks acquiring a shortstop out of play.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
2 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2021 - 9:08PM #10
yankoldfan
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Jul 29, 2021 -- 9:03PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:58PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:19PM, qwik3457 wrote:


Jul 29, 2021 -- 8:12PM, Jon wrote:

Voit is finished as a Yankee, looks like.



If the Rizzo trade goes through officially with the Cubs picking up the rest of his contract, and they trade Voit, then they can fit a decent-sized contract, or the last 1/3 of a season of it, under the cap. This bring Story or a good starter back into play.




Bringin Rizzo aboard make me wonder why they would want Story, he just adds to something we don't need right now ...If Rizzo is going to move to first base, that moves DJL back to second, and pushes Odor to the bench, I actually like our infield right now, Gio, Torres, Odor and DJL at first... In all honestly, the guy that needs to be taken out of the lineup is Stanton, he's like giving up an out more frequently than not...




You,re right. Trading for Rizzo takes Voit off the team and almost certainly knocks acquiring a shortstop out of play.




If we would acquire Story and Rizzo, both would be rentals, I guess this team has need LH bat all season, so in my book Rizzo makes more sense and Story is not needed.. I'm willing to go to war with Gio, Torres, Odor, DJL and Rizzo ... I think we'll be a better team with these players and Story does not fit...

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