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2 months ago  ::  Aug 01, 2021 - 8:59PM #121
Rob
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Okay, a win is a win but if not for the Marlins throwing the ball all over the stadium it was not impressive. Truth be told, if not for Rizzo and shoddy play by the Marlins, this could have been a sweep the other way.


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That's accurate, but on the plus side, the Yanks did take advantage of those errors. Also a positive, Monty with another solid outing, his ERA and WHIP keep dropping, and he has become very reliable and steady. Just still needs to get through the first 2 innings without surrendering a run, or having his PC adversely affected, and he will be golden.


The Marlins have some very good arms, so credit to them. But the Yankees need to be able to generate at least some decent amount of offense against the better pitchers if they are to make a run.


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Monty actually on a nice little run.  Not giving them the length they need (44 IP over his last 8 starts - but how much of that is due to a quick hook by Boone??) but he has produced a 2.86 ERA over that stretch.


Never got an answer to the question - would a NL manager PH for his starter after 5 IP, 81 pitches trailing 1-0?


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Boone is virtually Captain Hook. He is a guy who will burn out the pen if he doesn't let starters go longer. It seems if a starter is pitching well, but behind 1-0, 2-1, or tied, and in the 5th or 6th the leadoff batter gets on, they get the hook.


Guys not named Cole who get anywhere near 100 pitches, even as low as the upper 80's, by that point in the game, also get pulled.


That answers your question. I don't see NL managers doing that.


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Boone handles the pitching horribly.


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I'll give Boone a pass on the somethimes incomprehensible lienup decisions since we really don't know who has the final say on it.  Boone? Cashman? some stat geek in the analytics depaftment? Randy Levine?


But his in game handling of the pitching staff is probably ultimately up to Boone (with a ton of pre gfame input from analytics).  And that aspect alone should be enough to get him fired.


Of course, he is not alone.  i've seen several articles about the growing trend in MLB of telling starting pitchers, "Throw as hard as you can for as long as you can then I'll come get you." 

2 months ago  ::  Aug 01, 2021 - 11:03PM #122
bumper
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Aug 1, 2021 -- 8:07PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 1, 2021 -- 6:22PM, Rob wrote:


Aug 1, 2021 -- 4:42PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 1, 2021 -- 4:35PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 1, 2021 -- 4:12PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Why is Aguilar giving Chapman a dirty look?




Okay, a win is a win but if not for the Marlins throwing the ball all over the stadium it was not impressive. Truth be told, if not for Rizzo and shoddy play by the Marlins, this could have been a sweep the other way.




That's accurate, but on the plus side, the Yanks did take advantage of those errors. Also a positive, Monty with another solid outing, his ERA and WHIP keep dropping, and he has become very reliable and steady. Just still needs to get through the first 2 innings without surrendering a run, or having his PC adversely affected, and he will be golden.


The Marlins have some very good arms, so credit to them. But the Yankees need to be able to generate at least some decent amount of offense against the better pitchers if they are to make a run.




Monty actually on a nice little run.  Not giving them the length they need (44 IP over his last 8 starts - but how much of that is due to a quick hook by Boone??) but he has produced a 2.86 ERA over that stretch.


Never got an answer to the question - would a NL manager PH for his starter after 5 IP, 81 pitches trailing 1-0?




Boone is virtually Captain Hook. He is a guy who will burn out the pen if he doesn't let starters go longer. He is a primary reason this team collects pitchers by the bushelful. It seems if a starter is pitching well, but behind 1-0, 2-1, or tied, and in the 5th or 6th the leadoff batter gets on, they get the hook.


Guys not named Cole who get anywhere near 100 pitches, even as low as the upper 80's, by that point in the game, also get pulled.


That answers your question. I don't see NL managers doing that.




boone is doing no different than most managers in that regard. our starters average 5.2/start. league average is 5.1. oakland leads w 5.8. the white sox & astros 2nd at 5.5. dodgers & giants at 5.4. montgomery averages 5.48. so today was a little short for him today but suspect that between the tough 5th inning and with the 3rd time through the order coming up, boone pulled him. gerrit cole averages 6.2.


btw, taillon has a 2.11 ERA over his last 7 starts averaging just over 6 innings/start.

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