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3 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 2:25PM #11
jimwest
Posts: 4,783

Aug 25, 2021 -- 12:17AM, JudgeandYankees wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 10:02AM, bumper wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 9:46AM, Paterson wrote:



   I am loving having Stanton play in the field, having him hit and allowing the DH spot to open. With all that, I'd still be happy to move him when an opportunity arose. 




most would. his little run here will certainly improve his trade value if that's the direction they choose to go.




Why would they trade him now that he's finally healthy and returned to MVP form?  He's literally helping carry this offense and that's the reason why they traded for him in the first place.  


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If they are going to merely look at what he is doing now, that is myopic. I don't know the exact reasons they traded for him, but taking on that hideous contract when Hal knew full well he would be concerned about payroll, was not forward-thinking.


They should look to trade him in the offseason when he has value, in particular if the NL gets the DH, which looks likely. He will be 32 in November, and the decline years are closing in, especially with his injury history.


They have him for 6 more years yet, 2022-2027. If they wait 2-3 years, when he is 34 or 35, and getting injured again, they will never be able to trade him, and be stuck with years of him in decline, and tens of millions in annual sunk costs. 

3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 7:22AM #12
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,522

Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...

3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 11:40AM #13
bumper
Posts: 10,547

Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




sorta agree but health is the big question about hicks plus he'll be 33 next season. gallo so far during his time w us is striking out at a staggering 43.3% rate. for his career 37%. that makes guys like stanton & sanchez look like contact hitters. yeah he gets his walks but that means over 60% of the time, he's not even putting the ball in play. hicks also gets walks and his career K rate is 21%.


next season, the OF could potentially have judge, stanton, gallo & hicks. just more directions and decisions for cashman & co.




3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 12:10PM #14
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,522

Aug 26, 2021 -- 11:40AM, bumper wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




sorta agree but health is the big question about hicks plus he'll be 33 next season. gallo so far during his time w us is striking out at a staggering 43.3% rate. for his career 37%. that makes guys like stanton & sanchez look like contact hitters. yeah he gets his walks but that means over 60% of the time, he's not even putting the ball in play. hicks also gets walks and his career K rate is 21%.


next season, the OF could potentially have judge, stanton, gallo & hicks. just more directions and decisions for cashman & co.







Ca$hman will have a lot of decisions to make in the off season for sure... Agree, the problem with this team, and seems to always be a problem the last few years is indeed health ??

3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 12:21PM #15
luvdayanks
Posts: 30,736

Aug 26, 2021 -- 11:40AM, bumper wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




sorta agree but health is the big question about hicks plus he'll be 33 next season. gallo so far during his time w us is striking out at a staggering 43.3% rate. for his career 37%. that makes guys like stanton & sanchez look like contact hitters. yeah he gets his walks but that means over 60% of the time, he's not even putting the ball in play. hicks also gets walks and his career K rate is 21%.


next season, the OF could potentially have judge, stanton, gallo & hicks. just more directions and decisions for cashman & co.







I really don't see Hicks being in their plans for next year and imo, they're crazy if they do. He hasn't played up to his expectations is 33 and can't stay healthy. 

3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 12:26PM #16
newinn
Posts: 38,001
Never was a fan from day he got here.
3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 12:37PM #17
SSBob
Posts: 9,117

Aug 26, 2021 -- 12:21PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 11:40AM, bumper wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




sorta agree but health is the big question about hicks plus he'll be 33 next season. gallo so far during his time w us is striking out at a staggering 43.3% rate. for his career 37%. that makes guys like stanton & sanchez look like contact hitters. yeah he gets his walks but that means over 60% of the time, he's not even putting the ball in play. hicks also gets walks and his career K rate is 21%.


next season, the OF could potentially have judge, stanton, gallo & hicks. just more directions and decisions for cashman & co.




I really don't see Hicks being in their plans for next year and imo, they're crazy if they do. He hasn't played up to his expectations is 33 and can't stay healthy. 




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Is there a choice...can Yanks move him? Doubtful...

3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 1:02PM #18
1955nyyfan
Posts: 2,921

Aug 26, 2021 -- 12:37PM, SSBob wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 12:21PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 11:40AM, bumper wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




sorta agree but health is the big question about hicks plus he'll be 33 next season. gallo so far during his time w us is striking out at a staggering 43.3% rate. for his career 37%. that makes guys like stanton & sanchez look like contact hitters. yeah he gets his walks but that means over 60% of the time, he's not even putting the ball in play. hicks also gets walks and his career K rate is 21%.


next season, the OF could potentially have judge, stanton, gallo & hicks. just more directions and decisions for cashman & co.




I really don't see Hicks being in their plans for next year and imo, they're crazy if they do. He hasn't played up to his expectations is 33 and can't stay healthy. 




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Is there a choice...can Yanks move him? Doubtful...




I liked Hicks when he first got here and thought it was a good trade by Cash who gave up little to get him. Not an allstar by any means but he was a competent CFer and a switch hitter that added versatility to the lineup. Didn't hit for average but had good plate discipline and a good OBP. I did not like the contract extension and I know some have argured it's only 10mm per year but it runs through 2025, so he's under contract for 4 more years after this season. 


When a team has over 40mm remaining salary committed to a player, there will be an attempt to get some value for that expenditure. Given his age and injury history, I doubt they can move him without eating a bunch of salary and maybe including a prospect in the deal. I don't know if they can collect insurance on him but I think it's more likely he ends up "playing" out his career like Ellsbury did by spending large parts or full seasons on the IL. 


I raised a red flag during ST when Hicks made the comment he was going to hit 30 homeruns this season. There were also several vidios of him working out, lifting very heavy weights. While I'm no expert in this field, I do have a personnel opinion that ball players can get too big and the result of this is more frequent injuries. Getting caught up in the homerun chase, IMO may have hurt Hicks. 


When he did play a little bit before getting hurt, I thought he looked like he had lost a step defensively. If accurate, that would lessen his value even more. I'm not sure what Cash does here and if we roll next year with Stanton, Gallo and Judge as the regular OFers or not. I would be ok with that but if we decide to add a CFer, I hope Florial gets a legit shot. He has stayed healthy this year and has put up pretty good numbers at AAA. He's also a very good defensive OFer. That's my opinion, don't forget to send me 2 cents. 

3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 1:03PM #19
SSBob
Posts: 9,117

Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




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Gallo's an "interesting" player...athletic, good defense, speed in the field and on the basepaths and baseball smarts. Power hitter, a decent OBP prior to joining Yanks due to his willingness to take walks but...a ridiculous K rate. 


Unless Yanks can move him, he's on the team next year, and so is Hicks. As it is right now, I'd rather see Stanton in LF, Judge in RF and a LH hitting leadoff hitter type in CF. Hicks as 4th OF.


 




3 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2021 - 1:07PM #20
SSBob
Posts: 9,117

Aug 26, 2021 -- 1:02PM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 12:37PM, SSBob wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 12:21PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 11:40AM, bumper wrote:


Aug 26, 2021 -- 7:22AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Mentioning Hicks, if healthy, which he seems to have a hard time doing, is still a better option than Gallo... Gallo strikes out way too much... I know he's a gold glove OF'r, and he walks a lot... But Hicks can be better than Gallo when he's healthy...




sorta agree but health is the big question about hicks plus he'll be 33 next season. gallo so far during his time w us is striking out at a staggering 43.3% rate. for his career 37%. that makes guys like stanton & sanchez look like contact hitters. yeah he gets his walks but that means over 60% of the time, he's not even putting the ball in play. hicks also gets walks and his career K rate is 21%.


next season, the OF could potentially have judge, stanton, gallo & hicks. just more directions and decisions for cashman & co.




I really don't see Hicks being in their plans for next year and imo, they're crazy if they do. He hasn't played up to his expectations is 33 and can't stay healthy. 




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Is there a choice...can Yanks move him? Doubtful...




I liked Hicks when he first got here and thought it was a good trade by Cash who gave up little to get him. Not an allstar by any means but he was a competent CFer and a switch hitter that added versatility to the lineup. Didn't hit for average but had good plate discipline and a good OBP. I did not like the contract extension and I know some have argured it's only 10mm per year but it runs through 2025, so he's under contract for 4 more years after this season. 


When a team has over 40mm remaining salary committed to a player, there will be an attempt to get some value for that expenditure. Given his age and injury history, I doubt they can move him without eating a bunch of salary and maybe including a prospect in the deal. I don't know if they can collect insurance on him but I think it's more likely he ends up "playing" out his career like Ellsbury did by spending large parts or full seasons on the IL. 


I raised a red flag during ST when Hicks made the comment he was going to hit 30 homeruns this season. There were also several vidios of him working out, lifting very heavy weights. While I'm no expert in this field, I do have a personnel opinion that ball players can get too big and the result of this is more frequent injuries. Getting caught up in the homerun chase, IMO may have hurt Hicks. 


When he did play a little bit before getting hurt, I thought he looked like he had lost a step defensively. If accurate, that would lessen his value even more. I'm not sure what Cash does here and if we roll next year with Stanton, Gallo and Judge as the regular OFers or not. I would be ok with that but if we decide to add a CFer, I hope Florial gets a legit shot. He has stayed healthy this year and has put up pretty good numbers at AAA. He's also a very good defensive OFer. That's my opinion, don't forget to send me 2 cents. 




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I also liked the Hicks trade...switch hitter, strong arm and didn't give up much (JR Murphy) in the deal. 

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