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4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 6:21AM #11
Lola
Posts: 28,633

Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:56PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:21PM, NW wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:16PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:12PM, Lola wrote:


Need a drink after that one!


HM... Boone for taking Chappie out!




Boone did a terrific job managing in this series.




Boone got lucky.  Peralta was warming for insurance if Chapman blew the save.  If he was warming someone to come in to pitch to Freeman with the score 5-4, it damn well should have been Loaisaga or Green.  Peralta was the wrong matchup in that situation and the book agrees if you look at the Peralta v. Freeman history.




Loaisiga wasn't available tonight, pitched two games in a row and Green already pitched in the seventh and eighth. 




The Yankees were off Sunday, and Loaisiga had not pitched since last Tuesday, Aug.17th, so he had a lot of rest. He only pitched last night, so with an off day tomorrow, he should have been available.


Boone caught a break - he should have had JoLo ready to pitch to a dangerous hitter like Albies. In fact, he should have pulled Chapman after the 4 pitch walk to the pinch hitter before Albies.


 




Boone tried to go with his closer... no need to 2nd guess why he did what he did.

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 8:20AM #12
luvdayanks
Posts: 30,742

Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:56PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:21PM, NW wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:16PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:12PM, Lola wrote:


Need a drink after that one!


HM... Boone for taking Chappie out!




Boone did a terrific job managing in this series.




Boone got lucky.  Peralta was warming for insurance if Chapman blew the save.  If he was warming someone to come in to pitch to Freeman with the score 5-4, it damn well should have been Loaisaga or Green.  Peralta was the wrong matchup in that situation and the book agrees if you look at the Peralta v. Freeman history.




Loaisiga wasn't available tonight, pitched two games in a row and Green already pitched in the seventh and eighth. 




The Yankees were off Sunday, and Loaisiga had not pitched since last Tuesday, Aug.17th, so he had a lot of rest. He only pitched last night, so with an off day tomorrow, he should have been available.


Boone caught a break - he should have had JoLo ready to pitch to a dangerous hitter like Albies. In fact, he should have pulled Chapman after the 4 pitch walk to the pinch hitter before Albies.


 




I thought Boone made the right move with Peralta, although if indeed Loaisiga was available he could have gone that way but I thought I heard Loaisiga wasn't available. Maybe it was pitch count having pitched two innings. Bottom line, Boone shouldn't be put in that position by our closer. Second time in a week he's had to pull Chapman. Way too inconsistent to have any confidence with him.

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 8:44AM #13
1955nyyfan
Posts: 2,927

Aug 25, 2021 -- 8:20AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:56PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:21PM, NW wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:16PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:12PM, Lola wrote:


Need a drink after that one!


HM... Boone for taking Chappie out!




Boone did a terrific job managing in this series.




Boone got lucky.  Peralta was warming for insurance if Chapman blew the save.  If he was warming someone to come in to pitch to Freeman with the score 5-4, it damn well should have been Loaisaga or Green.  Peralta was the wrong matchup in that situation and the book agrees if you look at the Peralta v. Freeman history.




Loaisiga wasn't available tonight, pitched two games in a row and Green already pitched in the seventh and eighth. 




The Yankees were off Sunday, and Loaisiga had not pitched since last Tuesday, Aug.17th, so he had a lot of rest. He only pitched last night, so with an off day tomorrow, he should have been available.


Boone caught a break - he should have had JoLo ready to pitch to a dangerous hitter like Albies. In fact, he should have pulled Chapman after the 4 pitch walk to the pinch hitter before Albies.


 




I thought Boone made the right move with Peralta, although if indeed Loaisiga was available he could have gone that way but I thought I heard Loaisiga wasn't available. Maybe it was pitch count having pitched two innings. Bottom line, Boone shouldn't be put in that position by our closer. Second time in a week he's had to pull Chapman. Way too inconsistent to have any confidence with him.




Yep Luv, I completely agree. I understand why Boone is trying to get Chappy going because we are a better team when he's right, but all these games are so important. Plus we took another hit with Britton possibly needing elbow surgery. Peralta sure has been a valuable piece. 

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 8:49AM #14
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 84,638

I wasn't on line for the 9th inning, but my hair got a little greyer watching it ... Peralta must have ice in his veins.

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 9:56AM #15
bumper
Posts: 10,548

Aug 25, 2021 -- 8:44AM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


Aug 25, 2021 -- 8:20AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:56PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:39PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:21PM, NW wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:16PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:12PM, Lola wrote:


Need a drink after that one!


HM... Boone for taking Chappie out!




Boone did a terrific job managing in this series.




Boone got lucky.  Peralta was warming for insurance if Chapman blew the save.  If he was warming someone to come in to pitch to Freeman with the score 5-4, it damn well should have been Loaisaga or Green.  Peralta was the wrong matchup in that situation and the book agrees if you look at the Peralta v. Freeman history.




Loaisiga wasn't available tonight, pitched two games in a row and Green already pitched in the seventh and eighth. 




The Yankees were off Sunday, and Loaisiga had not pitched since last Tuesday, Aug.17th, so he had a lot of rest. He only pitched last night, so with an off day tomorrow, he should have been available.


Boone caught a break - he should have had JoLo ready to pitch to a dangerous hitter like Albies. In fact, he should have pulled Chapman after the 4 pitch walk to the pinch hitter before Albies.


 




I thought Boone made the right move with Peralta, although if indeed Loaisiga was available he could have gone that way but I thought I heard Loaisiga wasn't available. Maybe it was pitch count having pitched two innings. Bottom line, Boone shouldn't be put in that position by our closer. Second time in a week he's had to pull Chapman. Way too inconsistent to have any confidence with him.




Yep Luv, I completely agree. I understand why Boone is trying to get Chappy going because we are a better team when he's right, but all these games are so important. Plus we took another hit with Britton possibly needing elbow surgery. Peralta sure has been a valuable piece. 




agree. we're not going anywhere w/o chappy at the top of his game and they need to get him right. suspect now with another failure, boone will pick his spots to try to rebuild his confidence. 1st 3 batters, he looked fine and stuff was good overall. and he did strike out albies but he can't be walking the ballpark.


can't say enough about how good peralta's been. clearly he's found something here with his changeup. couldn't have been brought into a more difficult spot and against one of the best hitters in baseball. a hell of a battle. kept him in the park.


i woud have thought loaisiga in that spot but whoever came in should have come in after the albies walk.




4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 12:52PM #16
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 84,638

Watched the game again on Encore, including the 9th inning ... was so much easier watching Chapman implode knowing the end result.

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 12:58PM #17
luvdayanks
Posts: 30,742

Aug 25, 2021 -- 12:52PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Watched the game again on Encore, including the 9th inning ... was so much easier watching Chapman implode knowing the end result.




I did the same. No agita the second time around. That sounds like a Frank Sinatra song.LaughingKiss

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 1:02PM #18
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 84,638

Aug 25, 2021 -- 12:58PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 25, 2021 -- 12:52PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Watched the game again on Encore, including the 9th inning ... was so much easier watching Chapman implode knowing the end result.




I did the same. No agita the second time around. That sounds like a Frank Sinatra song.



4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 1:36PM #19
Rob
Posts: 1,995

Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:05PM, laurenfrances wrote:

Peralta!!!!! Green HM...homers from Stanton, LeMahieu, and Odor



Agree.  Boone as well, especially since he had Peralta warming up just in case.

4 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2021 - 2:03PM #20
jimwest
Posts: 4,793

Aug 25, 2021 -- 8:20AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 24, 2021 -- 11:56PM, jimwest wrote:


Boone got lucky.  Peralta was warming for insurance if Chapman blew the save.  If he was warming someone to come in to pitch to Freeman with the score 5-4, it damn well should have been Loaisaga or Green.  Peralta was the wrong matchup in that situation and the book agrees if you look at the Peralta v. Freeman history.




Loaisiga wasn't available tonight, pitched two games in a row and Green already pitched in the seventh and eighth. 




The Yankees were off Sunday, and Loaisiga had not pitched since last Tuesday, Aug.17th, so he had a lot of rest. He only pitched last night, so with an off day tomorrow, he should have been available.


Boone caught a break - he should have had JoLo ready to pitch to a dangerous hitter like Albies. In fact, he should have pulled Chapman after the 4 pitch walk to the pinch hitter before Albies.


 



I thought Boone made the right move with Peralta, although if indeed Loaisiga was available he could have gone that way but I thought I heard Loaisiga wasn't available. Maybe it was pitch count having pitched two innings. Bottom line, Boone shouldn't be put in that position by our closer. Second time in a week he's had to pull Chapman. Way too inconsistent to have any confidence with him.




He did seemingly make the right move with Peralta vs Freeman, as it just worked out. But even letting a hitter of Freeman's stature get to the plate with the game on the line was a mistake. As NW posted, the Perlata vs Freeman history indicated that was the wrong move.


While true that Chapman's poor pitching is what caused it, the fact is he has not been right for a while now, and should be inserted in low leverage situations only until when/if he gets right. As soon as he walked that batter on 4 straight pitches, it was obvious to anyone that he didn't have it. Chapman loses control of his fastball, he then appears to not have an "out" pitch he can control. 


Boone needs to accept the reality that Chapman now is an unreliable closer, who should have a short leash if he will keep allowing him to close games that are close. I don't share the view that Chapman is so critical to the Yankees for them to win. There are 4 arms in the pen with better ERA's and WHIP's than he has. His ERA is approaching 4, and his WHIP is a less-than-stellar 1.429. None of the others have the terrible control issues he has. I'd close with Loaisiga or Green in the short term. 

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