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11 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2021 - 11:55PM #161
jimwest
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Oct 5, 2021 -- 11:27PM, B1llyTheKid wrote:


somebody explain to me how this whitlock kid ends up from NY to boston?  was he part of the Stanton trade?  like what the .... did they get for him?  hilarious!




He was not part of the Stanton trade, nor did they Yankees get anything for him.


"Genius" Cashman decided to protect the terrible Brooks Kriske instead of Whitlock in the Rule 5 draft. The Red Sox took him, and the rest is history. Another blunder by Cashman.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 12:03AM #162
jimwest
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Oct 5, 2021 -- 11:31PM, Paterson wrote:



     The problem going forward is that we have a lot more bad contracts than we have talent in our minor leagues. Cashman spent money like a drunk and it is going to take years to work our way out of his bad decisions. 




That is why handing out more mega-deals to a shortstop, CF, or FA pitcher makes little sense. They need to move on from guys like Hicks, Sanchez, Kluber, maybe Gallo and Rizzo, possibly a couple of others. Get younger, and stop with the long term, bloated contracts.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 12:10AM #163
Paterson
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Oct 6, 2021 -- 12:03AM, jimwest wrote:


Oct 5, 2021 -- 11:31PM, Paterson wrote:



     The problem going forward is that we have a lot more bad contracts than we have talent in our minor leagues. Cashman spent money like a drunk and it is going to take years to work our way out of his bad decisions. 




That is why handing out more mega-deals to a shortstop, CF, or FA pitcher makes little sense. They need to move on from guys like Hicks, Sanchez, Kluber, maybe Gallo and Rizzo, possibly a couple of others. Get younger, and stop with the long term, bloated contracts.




    The problem is that the Yankees are locked in to bad deals for years to come. Cashman sold out to win now...and didn't. 

11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 12:17AM #164
jimwest
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Oct 6, 2021 -- 12:10AM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 6, 2021 -- 12:03AM, jimwest wrote:


Oct 5, 2021 -- 11:31PM, Paterson wrote:



     The problem going forward is that we have a lot more bad contracts than we have talent in our minor leagues. Cashman spent money like a drunk and it is going to take years to work our way out of his bad decisions. 




That is why handing out more mega-deals to a shortstop, CF, or FA pitcher makes little sense. They need to move on from guys like Hicks, Sanchez, Kluber, maybe Gallo and Rizzo, possibly a couple of others. Get younger, and stop with the long term, bloated contracts.




    The problem is that the Yankees are locked in to bad deals for years to come. Cashman sold out to win now...and didn't. 




Not as bad as perceived. Cole, Stanton, DJLM, and Hicks are the long term ones.


Hicks is movable, at about $10m per, if they really want to do so. They may have to absorb some cash, but it would not be crippling. DJLM can be traded after 2022. Again, some money will have to be absorbed, but possible. 


A lot of money comes off the books after 2022.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 12:35AM #165
dixieyank
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Oct 6, 2021 -- 12:17AM, jimwest wrote:



Not as bad as perceived. Cole, Stanton, DJLM, and Hicks are the long term ones.


Hicks is movable, at about $10m per, if they really want to do so. They may have to absorb some cash, but it would not be crippling. DJLM can be traded after 2022. Again, some money will have to be absorbed, but possible. 


A lot of money comes off the books after 2022.




Hicks has averaged playing half a season, for 9 years. 82 games per, to be exact.


The Yankees would first need him to be healthy, and even then, will have to eat almost his entire contract. Nobody is gonna take him, otherwise. Why would they? He'll be 32. His numbers, when he wasn't broke, weren't very good. Who is gonna want some of that $10m/yr kinda of action??


His contract was stupid before the ink dried, and most of us knew it. 


No need to trade DJ atm. He had a down year, but appears that he was nursing injury. See how he does after he heals. 


Stanton appears to have turned the corner, and had a pretty good year. He seemed to get better when they played him on defense. Cole as well, but struggled post injury coming down the stretch. They are both expensive, but they are also two of the better players. The pitching staff would be lost without Cole, tbh.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 12:42AM #166
laurenfrances
Posts: 47,329
People here are too anger to think logically. As Cole got taken out, offense did nothing to supply runs.

Blame is spread in many directions. Yankees have been inconsistent for the entire season. I was nervously sitting on edge wondering which Yankees version is playing tonight. We got our answer.

I bet there are several hidden injuries Yankees are attempting to play through. I would not be surprised if one of them is Cole.

Yankees season is over. They fought through inconsistencies. Time to move on...
11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 2:27AM #167
bikeboff
Posts: 238

First  of all,  I  don't think  they  should  have  partied  Sunday  after  the  1  to  0  win.  Nothing  to  be  proud  of.   Shameful  Boone let them do that,    I  knew  they'd  lose  to  the  Red Sox.  But  no  way  they  would  have  beaten  the  Rays  anyway.  If  they  had  by  a  miracle  beaten  Boston Do  you  really  think  the  Rays  then  would  have  folded to the  Yankees  after  Dominating them  all years.  And  no  way  Boston  now  beats  the  Rays,  no  way.  The  Rays  are  on  a  mission,  they are  mad  they  lost to  the  Dodgers last year. I  think  the  Rays  will play  the  Giants  and  the  Rays  win  this  year.  The  Rays  don't do  these  huge long  contracts,  when  a  star Rays  player  contract comes  up,  they  move  on  and  get these  gritty  players  who have the drive to win.  The  Yankees get  caught  with  all  these  long term  contracts,  then  the  players  do bad   and they  don't  have  money to try and  get  these  less costly  gritty  players.  I  am  tired  of  Judge  saying  our  mission  is  to  win  this  year,  He  says  it  every  year,  then  they play  like  crap.  It's  embarrassing....All I  kept  hearing  Tuesday  on  sports  shows  was  that  the  Yankees would  win  because  they  have  a  better  bullpen  the  Boston....you  all know  the  results  there.  I  don't  care  if  Sanchez  or  Torres  are  young,  move  on  ,  I  don't  see  why  they'd  change  all of  a  sudden.  Don't  hand  out  a huge  contract  to  some  shortshop,  or  in  2  years,  people  will be saying  we  shouldn't  have  done  that  big  contract. Learn  from  the  Rays Cashman.  No  ways  the  Rays  will let  the  Red Sox  win  in next  round.  Don't  hand  out  big  money  long  term  contracts...they  don't  work  for  the  Yankees.  Boone  should  go,  He  doesn't  fire  up  the  team.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2021 - 10:56AM #168
prof. quiz
Posts: 10,751

So close yet so far. Not as bad as 2004 but it still sucks to lose to a hated foe in the greatest rivalry in sports.


Once again the ends do not justify the means let alone their payroll. Yet another season gone by fraught with post-game excuses and lowlights.


This time Cole got lit up while Eovaldi didn't. The Yankees came out swinging on the first pitch which I guess was the plan?


Open the pod bay doors, Hal. I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.


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