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3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 8:42PM #41
El Guapo
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Oct 15, 2021 -- 8:35PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 8:33PM, El Guapo wrote:

Nobody should ever question my knowledge of the game! I know about pitching coaches, hitting coaches, third base coaches, bench coaches, and going the other way. I don't know anything about going BOTH ways though!



Please accept my apologies. I should have pointed out that my post applied to all but you.




Thank you, buddy!  

3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 9:02PM #42
SSBob
Posts: 9,379

Oct 15, 2021 -- 8:38PM, newinn wrote:


What I should have said is that we have no idea how effective coaches are in their job. 




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Over the years I've learned coaching is only effective with those who are coachable.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 9:05PM #43
newinn
Posts: 38,076

Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:02PM, SSBob wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 8:38PM, newinn wrote:


What I should have said is that we have no idea how effective coaches are in their job. 




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Over the years I've learned coaching is only effective with those who are coachable.




yep and as I've said the coaches don't set the philosophy, they coach the organizations philosophy. 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 9:24PM #44
Lola
Posts: 28,635
Not surprising Thames is the sacrificial lamb... looks like Boonie may be off the hook.
I don't like the blame game, when it comes to players underperforming, but... Don't know why this offense failed so miserably... other than Judge and Stanton. Thames is the hitting coach so it seems appropriate he's taking the blame.
3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 9:30PM #45
newinn
Posts: 38,076

Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:24PM, Lola wrote:

Not surprising Thames is the sacrificial lamb... looks like Boonie may be off the hook. I don't like the blame game, when it comes to players underperforming, but... Don't know why this offense failed so miserably... other than Judge and Stanton. Thames is the hitting coach so it seems appropriate he's taking the blame.



That's the way it works just never sure it's right. Remeber that pitching coach the Braves had back in the 90's when they had that tremendous staff of Smoltz, Glavine and the great pitcher whos name escapes me, man that coach was the toaste of the town. He went to (I think the Orioles) and couldn't last 3 years

3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 9:44PM #46
El Guapo
Posts: 295

Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:30PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:24PM, Lola wrote:

Not surprising Thames is the sacrificial lamb... looks like Boonie may be off the hook. I don't like the blame game, when it comes to players underperforming, but... Don't know why this offense failed so miserably... other than Judge and Stanton. Thames is the hitting coach so it seems appropriate he's taking the blame.



That's the way it works just never sure it's right. Remeber that pitching coach the Braves had back in the 90's when they had that tremendous staff of Smoltz, Glavine and the great pitcher whos name escapes me, man that coach was the toaste of the town. He went to (I think the Orioles) and couldn't last 3 years




Greg Maddux and Leo Mazzone.  

3 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2021 - 9:56PM #47
SSBob
Posts: 9,379

Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:44PM, El Guapo wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:30PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:24PM, Lola wrote:

Not surprising Thames is the sacrificial lamb... looks like Boonie may be off the hook. I don't like the blame game, when it comes to players underperforming, but... Don't know why this offense failed so miserably... other than Judge and Stanton. Thames is the hitting coach so it seems appropriate he's taking the blame.



That's the way it works just never sure it's right. Remeber that pitching coach the Braves had back in the 90's when they had that tremendous staff of Smoltz, Glavine and the great pitcher whos name escapes me, man that coach was the toaste of the town. He went to (I think the Orioles) and couldn't last 3 years




Greg Maddux and Leo Mazzone.  




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I thought it was John Rocker.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 4:48AM #48
El Guapo
Posts: 295

Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:56PM, SSBob wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:44PM, El Guapo wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:30PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:24PM, Lola wrote:

Not surprising Thames is the sacrificial lamb... looks like Boonie may be off the hook. I don't like the blame game, when it comes to players underperforming, but... Don't know why this offense failed so miserably... other than Judge and Stanton. Thames is the hitting coach so it seems appropriate he's taking the blame.



That's the way it works just never sure it's right. Remeber that pitching coach the Braves had back in the 90's when they had that tremendous staff of Smoltz, Glavine and the great pitcher whos name escapes me, man that coach was the toaste of the town. He went to (I think the Orioles) and couldn't last 3 years




Greg Maddux and Leo Mazzone.  




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I thought it was John Rocker.




I could be wrong, Bob.  It's happened before.  


New and Luv among many others, however, consider me their one-stop source for all things baseball related!


Trust in the Guap!

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 7:28AM #49
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,593

In all reality hitting the other way is not as hard as it looks, one has to hit the ball where it's pitched... Our biggest problem as a team is being too pull happy... Especially with our big power hitters... We have a couple players that do a pretty good job of hitting the other way, Torres and Urshula, Torres gets himself in a slump when he gets pull happy ..  Judge as his career moves forward has started to hit the ball the other way, and with the short porch it's paying off... DJL was also a perfect example of going the other way, this year hasn't been as good, he seems he's pulled the ball a little more than he did his previous two years... 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 8:57AM #50
1955nyyfan
Posts: 2,935

Oct 15, 2021 -- 8:22PM, newinn wrote:


going the other way is not an organizational philosophy. Neither is bunting, neither is shortening up on the bat with two strikes. Neither is hit and runs nor stealing with guys like Stanton on deck. They built what they consider to be a power lineup and expect these guys to hit home runs. 


Bob nailed it when he said pitchers usually pitch to the shift. Not sure they do it so much with the Yankees because the hitters that teams shift on are expected to hit the ball over the shift and over the fence. Those are organizationl philosophies.




What IMO is a little ironic about this discussion, is that I've always thought Sanchez, Voit, Judge and even Stanton were better hitters when they were hitting the ball to RCF or up the middle. Seemed to me when these guys are going really good they drive a lot of balls that way. 

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