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11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:16PM #21
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:00PM, manbot wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:23PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 12:29PM, manbot wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 9:01PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 4:42PM, Rob wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 1:18PM, Jon wrote:

Another obvious firing.



A knee jerk post.  Can you explain what Thames did to turn them into a less than mediocre ofensive team after several years of being one of the top offensive teams prior to 2021?  of course you cannot because we fans never get to see what Thames and the other hitting coach are doing.


Unlike Nevin whose blunders were right there during games for eveyrone to see we never see Thames' work.   After 3 years we have no idea if the reason the Yankees grounded into so many DPs is because Thames suddenly changed everyone's apporach. 


I'm not saying Thames shouldn't have been fierd.  Maybe it simply is time for a nwe voice because the players aren't lsitening to what he is trying to teach.  But if he is to blamer for 2021'a iodfffensive malaise, he ought to get a lot of credit for how well they hit in previous years.




For as long as I've been here Jonah's answer to every issue is to fire someone. 




Isnt that the way it works in most businesses ... if you underperform they release you?



 



You really ARE clueless!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I guess its different when your flippin burgers 



You're a burger flipper? Tell me where so I don't patronize the establishment.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:22PM #22
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:51PM, Jon wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:47PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:43PM, Jon wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:40PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:34PM, Jon wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:21PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 9:58AM, NW wrote:


Oct 15, 2021 -- 8:43PM, JudgeandYankees wrote:


Situational hitting isn't on Thames, I think it is good to bring in a brand new coaching staff to shake things up a bit.  




Situational hitting is 100% on Thames and the Yankees' hitting philosophy which he either led or bought into.  The Yankees' philosophy doesn't tend toward good situational hitting and they've turned the lineup into launch angle robots.  



Execution is on the players, not the coach.




Then why have a hitting coach at all, dear?



You wouldn't understand, you could never hit.




I have hit. NCAA baseball, dear.

Let me ask this: why do other hitting coaches improve their hitters while ours couldn't? I'm sorry, no. The GIDPs were an epidemic on the Yankees and Thames had nothing to do to help them? Seriously?




You are full of $hit.




Uh huh.




I didn't answer your question, I know. I can add a cliche: you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. Who the hell knows why? You can accept some talking head's explanation, but I don't have to. If they really knew, it would be fixed.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:22PM #23
Paterson
Posts: 8,294

Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:26PM #24
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:22PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         



Maybe time for a change at the top?

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:32PM #25
JudgeandYankees
Posts: 708

Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




That line of thinking is why we won't make it deep in the play-offs.  How long has this line of thinking been forced on our team?  It's no wonder why are hitters turn to trash. Is this mentality pushed through the minor leagues as well?

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:34PM #26
Paterson
Posts: 8,294

Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:26PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:22PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         



Maybe time for a change at the top?




    I  admit that I've been ****ed at Cashman since the way he treated Bernie Williams. He's been on my S list for 15 years. It is hard for me to be objective. But I know he has been allowed to spend an enormous amount of money and achieved very limited success. When you have a $220 M payroll every year I am not impressed with making the playoffs. And I don't buy the crapshoot crap. 


   

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:49PM #27
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:34PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:26PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:22PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         



Maybe time for a change at the top?




    I  admit that I've been ****ed at Cashman since the way he treated Bernie Williams. He's been on my S list for 15 years. It is hard for me to be objective. But I know he has been allowed to spend an enormous amount of money and achieved very limited success. When you have a $220 M payroll every year I am not impressed with making the playoffs. And I don't buy the crapshoot crap. 


   



It seems like they only want things done a certain way... Look at how they screwed up with Sonny Gray. It has me questioning the organization as a whole. Why are others more successful? Because the let players do what they are good at, and not making them try to be someone else.

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:59PM #28
Paterson
Posts: 8,294

Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:49PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:34PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:26PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:22PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         



Maybe time for a change at the top?




    I  admit that I've been ****ed at Cashman since the way he treated Bernie Williams. He's been on my S list for 15 years. It is hard for me to be objective. But I know he has been allowed to spend an enormous amount of money and achieved very limited success. When you have a $220 M payroll every year I am not impressed with making the playoffs. And I don't buy the crapshoot crap. 


   



It seems like they only want things done a certain way... Look at how they screwed up with Sonny Gray. It has me questioning the organization as a whole. Why are others more successful? Because the let players do what they are good at, and not making them try to be someone else.




    Sonny Gray ? How about Nate Eovaldi ? 

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 10:02PM #29
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:59PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:49PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:34PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:26PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:22PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         



Maybe time for a change at the top?




    I  admit that I've been ****ed at Cashman since the way he treated Bernie Williams. He's been on my S list for 15 years. It is hard for me to be objective. But I know he has been allowed to spend an enormous amount of money and achieved very limited success. When you have a $220 M payroll every year I am not impressed with making the playoffs. And I don't buy the crapshoot crap. 


   



It seems like they only want things done a certain way... Look at how they screwed up with Sonny Gray. It has me questioning the organization as a whole. Why are others more successful? Because the let players do what they are good at, and not making them try to be someone else.




    Sonny Gray ? How about Nate Eovaldi ? 



I thought he was released due to TJ... But another Jon up!

11 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 10:07PM #30
Paterson
Posts: 8,294

Oct 17, 2021 -- 10:02PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:59PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:49PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:34PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:26PM, davis2 wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 9:22PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 17, 2021 -- 8:47PM, Jon wrote:


Why is Yankees’ offense so bad? Don’t blame analytics, hitting coach Marcus Thames says


www.nj.com/yankees/2021/06/why-is-yankee...


Thames says that he knows what isn’t the problem. He says blame the hitters and the hitting coaches (which include assistant P.J. Pilittere), but not the Yankees’ analytics staff, which pushes for walks and homers a lot more than old-school tactics.



hahahaha


Yeah, Thames wasn't hired to be a mouthpiece for Cashman. Sure.




   Animals that fly generally move a lot faster than those that run. But if you have a team of oxen, I suggest you give up on the idea of flying. My point is that a managers job is to find out what each player does best. From there, it is his job to put players in the best situations to succeed. You don't need a quantum computer to figure out all walks and home runs will win games. Too bad the game is not that easy. 


   The one strategy fits all mantra of the Yankees might be a reason why the season seems to end so early. 


    


         



Maybe time for a change at the top?




    I  admit that I've been ****ed at Cashman since the way he treated Bernie Williams. He's been on my S list for 15 years. It is hard for me to be objective. But I know he has been allowed to spend an enormous amount of money and achieved very limited success. When you have a $220 M payroll every year I am not impressed with making the playoffs. And I don't buy the crapshoot crap. 


   



It seems like they only want things done a certain way... Look at how they screwed up with Sonny Gray. It has me questioning the organization as a whole. Why are others more successful? Because the let players do what they are good at, and not making them try to be someone else.




    Sonny Gray ? How about Nate Eovaldi ? 



I thought he was released due to TJ... But another Jon up!




    Pitchers getting TJ surgery is almost routine today. The Yankees did not want to pay Eovaldi to rehab. They've paid many guys to do exaclty that. I admit that he is a much better pitcher today than I thought he'd ever be. That said, the Yankees didn't get it right.  

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