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Yanks on getting a true SS
3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 10:49AM #11
NW
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 10:14AM, xnewyorker wrote:


Peraza had 8 total games at SWB and is not ready yet.  Simmons is a great defensive SS that can save a ton of runs.




Is there a requisite number of games a player has to play at AAA before he's ready?  Teams have promoted players direct from AA and even (rarely) A ball and they've done fine.  I'm not against Simmons for a 1 year deal, but I still wouldn't prohibit Peraza from coming to ST and taking the job.  Peraza is a different type of hitter than anyone we currently have in our lineup.  My big concern is that he might not have the plate discipline needed to succeed at the MLB level, but I'm not sure time at AAA will help him with that.


3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 11:04AM #12
xnewyorker
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No need to rush any player to the major leagues.


Let him succeed in AAA and when he is ready, than he can come up.   He is closer to the majors than Volpe.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 12:08PM #13
manbot
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 10:14AM, xnewyorker wrote:


Peraza had 8 total games at SWB and is not ready yet.  Simmons is a great defensive SS that can save a ton of runs.




Simmons will be 33 next year ... His offense and defense have been on the decline for the last 3 seasons


No Thanks 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 12:09PM #14
luvdayanks
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:04AM, xnewyorker wrote:


No need to rush any player to the major leagues.


Let him succeed in AAA and when he is ready, than he can come up.   He is closer to the majors than Volpe.




Tell that to Vlad Jr , Bichette, Franco and Arozerina among others. They're all in their very early 20s and didn't get wasted in the minors. I've always said the Yankees are far too conservative with prospects and most are in the minors for 4 or 5 years and before you know it they're 27 years old. 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 3:58PM #15
vdfebduderocks
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 12:09PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:04AM, xnewyorker wrote:


No need to rush any player to the major leagues.


Let him succeed in AAA and when he is ready, than he can come up.   He is closer to the majors than Volpe.




Tell that to Vlad Jr , Bichette, Franco and Arozerina among others. They're all in their very early 20s and didn't get wasted in the minors. I've always said the Yankees are far too conservative with prospects and most are in the minors for 4 or 5 years and before you know it they're 27 years old. 




Great examples except Arozerena came up a bit later than those guys. We could even mention Soto & Tatis Jr. Even guys like Severino came up early and Torres would have in 2017 if he remembered to slide feet first instead of head first.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 4:07PM #16
Paterson
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    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 4:41PM #17
dixieyank
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:07PM, Paterson wrote:



    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 




OR, they will sign one of the top tier SS available, in a rare year where that happens, because prospects are suspects, and getting a top tier guy where you are weak is a good decision to help improve.


As for Judge, they can buy out next year's arb and offer him a 4 or 5 year, top dollar deal, and he might take it. Otherwise, he's smart to take his chances and play the FA market after next year, since it's literally his one shot at a big contract.


Catcher? Only if they can find one in trade, as there isn't much availible that improves them from what they have.


TL;DR   I think your post is completely off base. Sorry.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 4:46PM #18
bruner4329
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 10:14AM, xnewyorker wrote:


Peraza had 8 total games at SWB and is not ready yet.  Simmons is a great defensive SS that can save a ton of runs.




So let me ask an important question. If we sign a RH hitting SS where are the lefty bats coming from in this lineup or do you want to repeat the same dumb mistake Cashman made this past season with 8 RH hitters in the lineup. The way I see it the only opportunities for a lefty bat would be SS, 1B and CF. Catcher is also a possibility but there aren't too many LH hitting catchers.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 5:48PM #19
Paterson
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:41PM, dixieyank wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:07PM, Paterson wrote:



    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 




OR, they will sign one of the top tier SS available, in a rare year where that happens, because prospects are suspects, and getting a top tier guy where you are weak is a good decision to help improve.


As for Judge, they can buy out next year's arb and offer him a 4 or 5 year, top dollar deal, and he might take it. Otherwise, he's smart to take his chances and play the FA market after next year, since it's literally his one shot at a big contract.


Catcher? Only if they can find one in trade, as there isn't much availible that improves them from what they have.


TL;DR   I think your post is completely off base. Sorry.




    No problem with the comment. That is what makes for a good conversation.


Let me start with the comment about our catcher. Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?   Sanchez is who he is after 5 years in the major leagues. How does every other pitcher on the staff feel about throwing to a guy who their leader has delared to be incompetent ?   I am not saying Sanchez is good or bad.  I am saying that Cole made that decision and the pitching staff all sees it. Time to move on.


Now let me move on to SS. Shortstops and starlets do not get better after age 30 ! The only free agent SS who is not there or close is Correa. The Yankees would have to offer him close to $40 M per to pry him away from Texas - a state without an income tax !   Are you ready for a second Cole sized contract. More importantly, is Steinbrenner ready ?


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 


Propsects are not suspects. They are the currency that great teams use to acquire talent from other organizations or to fill spots on their own rosters. The sooner the Yankees accept that, the sooner they might get back to the WS.


    And again, thanks for taking the time to answer my first post !   We do not have to agree to enjoy talking.  

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 5:54PM #20
SSBob
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Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 




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Seager is the Dodgers starting SS...for now. Trea Turner has been playing 2B.



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