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Yanks on getting a true SS
3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 6:18PM #21
Paterson
Posts: 7,379

Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:54PM, SSBob wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 




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Seager is the Dodgers starting SS...for now. Trea Turner has been playing 2B.




   And may he continue to be for many years to come. 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 6:41PM #22
SSBob
Posts: 9,379

Oct 16, 2021 -- 6:18PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:54PM, SSBob wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 




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Seager is the Dodgers starting SS...for now. Trea Turner has been playing 2B.




   And may he continue to be for many years to come. 




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Pretty sure Dodgers plan to move Turner to SS and Gavin Lux to 2B.


3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 9:38PM #23
davis2
Posts: 19,187

Oct 16, 2021 -- 12:09PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:04AM, xnewyorker wrote:


No need to rush any player to the major leagues.


Let him succeed in AAA and when he is ready, than he can come up.   He is closer to the majors than Volpe.




Tell that to Vlad Jr , Bichette, Franco and Arozerina among others. They're all in their very early 20s and didn't get wasted in the minors. I've always said the Yankees are far too conservative with prospects and most are in the minors for 4 or 5 years and before you know it they're 27 years old. 



But they don't deal with NY bull$hit...

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 11:17PM #24
manbot
Posts: 1,497

Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:41PM, dixieyank wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:07PM, Paterson wrote:



    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 




OR, they will sign one of the top tier SS available, in a rare year where that happens, because prospects are suspects, and getting a top tier guy where you are weak is a good decision to help improve.


As for Judge, they can buy out next year's arb and offer him a 4 or 5 year, top dollar deal, and he might take it. Otherwise, he's smart to take his chances and play the FA market after next year, since it's literally his one shot at a big contract.


Catcher? Only if they can find one in trade, as there isn't much availible that improves them from what they have.


TL;DR   I think your post is completely off base. Sorry.




    No problem with the comment. That is what makes for a good conversation.


Let me start with the comment about our catcher. Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?   Sanchez is who he is after 5 years in the major leagues. How does every other pitcher on the staff feel about throwing to a guy who their leader has delared to be incompetent ?   I am not saying Sanchez is good or bad.  I am saying that Cole made that decision and the pitching staff all sees it. Time to move on.


Now let me move on to SS. Shortstops and starlets do not get better after age 30 ! The only free agent SS who is not there or close is Correa. The Yankees would have to offer him close to $40 M per to pry him away from Texas - a state without an income tax !   Are you ready for a second Cole sized contract. More importantly, is Steinbrenner ready ?


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 


Propsects are not suspects. They are the currency that great teams use to acquire talent from other organizations or to fill spots on their own rosters. The sooner the Yankees accept that, the sooner they might get back to the WS.


    And again, thanks for taking the time to answer my first post !   We do not have to agree to enjoy talking.  




Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?  1st This is absolute BS and Cole Himself has said it was not true. 2nd Cole no longer has the choice of who he pitches to since he sucked when it counted while picthing to Higgy. 3rd the Yankees had one of the best catching tandems in the MLB so it's really not a priority. Last year everyone was insisting that we needed to sign McCann who went on to suck as a full time catcher. Learn from that ... the grass is always greener on the othe rteams ball field 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2021 - 11:34PM #25
Paterson
Posts: 7,379

Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:17PM, manbot wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:41PM, dixieyank wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:07PM, Paterson wrote:



    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 




OR, they will sign one of the top tier SS available, in a rare year where that happens, because prospects are suspects, and getting a top tier guy where you are weak is a good decision to help improve.


As for Judge, they can buy out next year's arb and offer him a 4 or 5 year, top dollar deal, and he might take it. Otherwise, he's smart to take his chances and play the FA market after next year, since it's literally his one shot at a big contract.


Catcher? Only if they can find one in trade, as there isn't much availible that improves them from what they have.


TL;DR   I think your post is completely off base. Sorry.




    No problem with the comment. That is what makes for a good conversation.


Let me start with the comment about our catcher. Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?   Sanchez is who he is after 5 years in the major leagues. How does every other pitcher on the staff feel about throwing to a guy who their leader has delared to be incompetent ?   I am not saying Sanchez is good or bad.  I am saying that Cole made that decision and the pitching staff all sees it. Time to move on.


Now let me move on to SS. Shortstops and starlets do not get better after age 30 ! The only free agent SS who is not there or close is Correa. The Yankees would have to offer him close to $40 M per to pry him away from Texas - a state without an income tax !   Are you ready for a second Cole sized contract. More importantly, is Steinbrenner ready ?


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 


Propsects are not suspects. They are the currency that great teams use to acquire talent from other organizations or to fill spots on their own rosters. The sooner the Yankees accept that, the sooner they might get back to the WS.


    And again, thanks for taking the time to answer my first post !   We do not have to agree to enjoy talking.  




Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?  1st This is absolute BS and Cole Himself has said it was not true. 2nd Cole no longer has the choice of who he pitches to since he sucked when it counted while picthing to Higgy. 3rd the Yankees had one of the best catching tandems in the MLB so it's really not a priority. Last year everyone was insisting that we needed to sign McCann who went on to suck as a full time catcher. Learn from that ... the grass is always greener on the othe rteams ball field 




     Higashioka started the most important game of the Yankee season. That answers everything. . 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 12:12PM #26
Max
Posts: 8,918

Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:46PM, bruner4329 wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 10:14AM, xnewyorker wrote:


Peraza had 8 total games at SWB and is not ready yet.  Simmons is a great defensive SS that can save a ton of runs.




So let me ask an important question. If we sign a RH hitting SS where are the lefty bats coming from in this lineup or do you want to repeat the same dumb mistake Cashman made this past season with 8 RH hitters in the lineup. The way I see it the only opportunities for a lefty bat would be SS, 1B and CF. Catcher is also a possibility but there aren't too many LH hitting catchers.




They could also re-sign Rizzo, but re-signing Rizzo and signing a righty SS would likely mean the Yankees would trade either Torres, DJ, or Gio. In my opinion, if the Yankees are going to sign a SS, they should sign Seager over Correa because Seager is a lefty bat. Although signing Correa away from the Astros would also be a good signing.


The Yankees shouldn't waste time on signing Simmons. If the Yankees don't want to sign a top SS, they should just leave Gio at SS. Yeah, the Yankees have Volpe and Peraza, but there's no rule against the Yankees eventually moving Seager to 3B and trading Gio and or Torres in the future if the Yankees feel that they are a better team with a Volpe-Peraza double-play combo.


A lefty catcher that might be available is Tucker Barnhart, he isn't Yogi Berra, but he's a gold glove catcher with a .248 career batting average.

3 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 12:14PM #27
Jon
Posts: 5,042
Cole was injured and shouldn't have pitched. Period. Check Cole before and after his 15 K game.

Guess Cole has to be the new Stanton for dimwitted fans.
3 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 6:11PM #28
manbot
Posts: 1,497

Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:34PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:17PM, manbot wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:41PM, dixieyank wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:07PM, Paterson wrote:



    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 




OR, they will sign one of the top tier SS available, in a rare year where that happens, because prospects are suspects, and getting a top tier guy where you are weak is a good decision to help improve.


As for Judge, they can buy out next year's arb and offer him a 4 or 5 year, top dollar deal, and he might take it. Otherwise, he's smart to take his chances and play the FA market after next year, since it's literally his one shot at a big contract.


Catcher? Only if they can find one in trade, as there isn't much availible that improves them from what they have.


TL;DR   I think your post is completely off base. Sorry.




    No problem with the comment. That is what makes for a good conversation.


Let me start with the comment about our catcher. Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?   Sanchez is who he is after 5 years in the major leagues. How does every other pitcher on the staff feel about throwing to a guy who their leader has delared to be incompetent ?   I am not saying Sanchez is good or bad.  I am saying that Cole made that decision and the pitching staff all sees it. Time to move on.


Now let me move on to SS. Shortstops and starlets do not get better after age 30 ! The only free agent SS who is not there or close is Correa. The Yankees would have to offer him close to $40 M per to pry him away from Texas - a state without an income tax !   Are you ready for a second Cole sized contract. More importantly, is Steinbrenner ready ?


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 


Propsects are not suspects. They are the currency that great teams use to acquire talent from other organizations or to fill spots on their own rosters. The sooner the Yankees accept that, the sooner they might get back to the WS.


    And again, thanks for taking the time to answer my first post !   We do not have to agree to enjoy talking.  




Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?  1st This is absolute BS and Cole Himself has said it was not true. 2nd Cole no longer has the choice of who he pitches to since he sucked when it counted while picthing to Higgy. 3rd the Yankees had one of the best catching tandems in the MLB so it's really not a priority. Last year everyone was insisting that we needed to sign McCann who went on to suck as a full time catcher. Learn from that ... the grass is always greener on the othe rteams ball field 




     Higashioka started the most important game of the Yankee season. That answers everything. . 




It doesnt say ****! Higgy Started because Cole was pitching and Cole got detsroyed ... Joey Gallo batted 4th in the most important game of the season 


Valesques started at SS, Gardner in Center 


All these things tell me is that mistakes were made and the it cost the Yankees and their fans dearly 

3 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 7:48PM #29
qwik3457
Posts: 12,524

Oct 16, 2021 -- 12:09PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:04AM, xnewyorker wrote:


No need to rush any player to the major leagues.


Let him succeed in AAA and when he is ready, than he can come up.   He is closer to the majors than Volpe.




Tell that to Vlad Jr , Bichette, Franco and Arozerina among others. They're all in their very early 20s and didn't get wasted in the minors. I've always said the Yankees are far too conservative with prospects and most are in the minors for 4 or 5 years and before you know it they're 27 years old. 




True for Guerrero, Bichette and Franco. Also for Devers. Not true for Arozarena. He was already 24 when he got his first cup of coffee with the Cards in 2019. He was already 25 last year when the Rays called him up for his white-hot jet streak through the end of the season and playoffs. He was 26 this year in his first full major league season.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
3 months ago  ::  Oct 17, 2021 - 9:38PM #30
JudgeandYankees
Posts: 539

Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:34PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 11:17PM, manbot wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:41PM, dixieyank wrote:


Oct 16, 2021 -- 4:07PM, Paterson wrote:



    the Yankees will sign a big $$$ SS this offseason becuause it will placate the fans much like the signing of Cole placated everyone a couple of years ago. A smart organization would use the resources they have, lock up Judge for the next four seasons and try to find an upgrade at catcher. 




OR, they will sign one of the top tier SS available, in a rare year where that happens, because prospects are suspects, and getting a top tier guy where you are weak is a good decision to help improve.


As for Judge, they can buy out next year's arb and offer him a 4 or 5 year, top dollar deal, and he might take it. Otherwise, he's smart to take his chances and play the FA market after next year, since it's literally his one shot at a big contract.


Catcher? Only if they can find one in trade, as there isn't much availible that improves them from what they have.


TL;DR   I think your post is completely off base. Sorry.




    No problem with the comment. That is what makes for a good conversation.


Let me start with the comment about our catcher. Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?   Sanchez is who he is after 5 years in the major leagues. How does every other pitcher on the staff feel about throwing to a guy who their leader has delared to be incompetent ?   I am not saying Sanchez is good or bad.  I am saying that Cole made that decision and the pitching staff all sees it. Time to move on.


Now let me move on to SS. Shortstops and starlets do not get better after age 30 ! The only free agent SS who is not there or close is Correa. The Yankees would have to offer him close to $40 M per to pry him away from Texas - a state without an income tax !   Are you ready for a second Cole sized contract. More importantly, is Steinbrenner ready ?


I think it is interesting that the starting SS for the Dodgers is Trea Turner, not Seeger. Semien had a great year, but at second. Story's numbers are adequate even with half his games at Coors. 


Propsects are not suspects. They are the currency that great teams use to acquire talent from other organizations or to fill spots on their own rosters. The sooner the Yankees accept that, the sooner they might get back to the WS.


    And again, thanks for taking the time to answer my first post !   We do not have to agree to enjoy talking.  




Don't you find it at least a little disturbing that our $324 M ACE refuses to pitch to him ?  1st This is absolute BS and Cole Himself has said it was not true. 2nd Cole no longer has the choice of who he pitches to since he sucked when it counted while picthing to Higgy. 3rd the Yankees had one of the best catching tandems in the MLB so it's really not a priority. Last year everyone was insisting that we needed to sign McCann who went on to suck as a full time catcher. Learn from that ... the grass is always greener on the othe rteams ball field 




     Higashioka started the most important game of the Yankee season. That answers everything. . 




Higashioka starting speaks volumes on how poor a catcher Sanchez is, Higgy is nothing special.

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