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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 5:48PM #1
Giancarlo
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Big G has 6 years left over which the Yankees will pay him 159 million.   His cost against the tax threshold is 22 million.


So let's represent it as:  6/159/22


And let's compare that to some of the free agents that have come off the board:


Baez: 6/140/23


Semien: 7/175/25


Seager: 10/325/32.5


Scherzer: 3/130/43.3


For one of the games most potent power threats, and one of the most clutch post-season performers, Giancarlo's contract is starting to look pretty good.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 6:44PM #2
BATS
Posts: 278

Nov 30, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Big G has 6 years left over which the Yankees will pay him 159 million.   His cost against the tax threshold is 22 million.


So let's represent it as:  6/159/22


And let's compare that to some of the free agents that have come off the board:


Baez: 6/140/23


Semien: 7/175/25


Seager: 10/325/32.5


Scherzer: 3/130/43.3


For one of the games most potent power threats, and one of the most clutch post-season performers, Giancarlo's contract is starting to look pretty good.




The 159 mil, that you posted........that's accounts for just the Yankees right? I ask because, alot of the posters in this messageboard are not good with complex data to process in their heads (lol). I am obviously referring to Miami Marlin subsidy.


Just on a sidenote....


I am laughing my head off, looking at all the panic headlines from the online sports media. LOL....it's the same panic-stricken headlines that were being posted when the Yankees did not sign either Bryce Harper or Manny Machado. NOW....they are writing that WE HAVE TO/MUST sign Carlos Correa.


AMAZING!!!


6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 7:00PM #3
Giancarlo
Posts: 851

Nov 30, 2021 -- 6:44PM, BATS wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Big G has 6 years left over which the Yankees will pay him 159 million.   His cost against the tax threshold is 22 million.


So let's represent it as:  6/159/22


And let's compare that to some of the free agents that have come off the board:


Baez: 6/140/23


Semien: 7/175/25


Seager: 10/325/32.5


Scherzer: 3/130/43.3


For one of the games most potent power threats, and one of the most clutch post-season performers, Giancarlo's contract is starting to look pretty good.




The 159 mil, that you posted........that's accounts for just the Yankees right? I ask because, alot of the posters in this messageboard are not good with complex data to process in their heads (lol). I am obviously referring to Miami Marlin subsidy.


Just on a sidenote....


I am laughing my head off, looking at all the panic headlines from the online sports media. LOL....it's the same panic-stricken headlines that were being posted when the Yankees did not sign either Bryce Harper or Manny Machado. NOW....they are writing that WE HAVE TO/MUST sign Carlos Correa.


AMAZING!!!





It is what the Yankees have to pay him over the 6 years.   He will be paid 20 million more by the Marlins.   And there is a buyout for a 7th year which costs 10 million, but that will also be paid by the Fish.


Stanton now costs less against the luxury tax threshold than Baez does.   He's signed for less money and years than Semien.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 8:10PM #4
Rob
Posts: 2,333

Nov 30, 2021 -- 7:00PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 6:44PM, BATS wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Big G has 6 years left over which the Yankees will pay him 159 million.   His cost against the tax threshold is 22 million.


So let's represent it as:  6/159/22


And let's compare that to some of the free agents that have come off the board:


Baez: 6/140/23


Semien: 7/175/25


Seager: 10/325/32.5


Scherzer: 3/130/43.3


For one of the games most potent power threats, and one of the most clutch post-season performers, Giancarlo's contract is starting to look pretty good.




The 159 mil, that you posted........that's accounts for just the Yankees right? I ask because, alot of the posters in this messageboard are not good with complex data to process in their heads (lol). I am obviously referring to Miami Marlin subsidy.


Just on a sidenote....


I am laughing my head off, looking at all the panic headlines from the online sports media. LOL....it's the same panic-stricken headlines that were being posted when the Yankees did not sign either Bryce Harper or Manny Machado. NOW....they are writing that WE HAVE TO/MUST sign Carlos Correa.


AMAZING!!!





It is what the Yankees have to pay him over the 6 years.   He will be paid 20 million more by the Marlins.   And there is a buyout for a 7th year which costs 10 million, but that will also be paid by the Fish.


Stanton now costs less against the luxury tax threshold than Baez does.   He's signed for less money and years than Semien.




As time goes on and IF (a very big "if") he stays healthy and produces the way he can when healthy, the contract will come oi be seen as a pretty good value.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 8:22PM #5
Paterson
Posts: 7,679


    I'd move Stanton for an elite shortstop in a "New York" minute. It is not his fault, but you just cannot compare a DH to a SS.  

6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 8:31PM #6
Rob
Posts: 2,333

Nov 30, 2021 -- 8:22PM, Paterson wrote:



    I'd move Stanton for an elite shortstop in a "New York" minute. It is not his fault, but you just cannot compare a DH to a SS.  




seems all but certain that the DH in the NL will be part of the new CBA which opens up a bunch of teams for whom he might agree to waive his NTC.  But if there is an elite or even pretty good SS that he might bring back in trade, why haven't we already heard  about possibly trading for that SS with other assets?


of course, his value goes up if he can play, say, 100 games in the OF and DH the rest of the time.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 9:09PM #7
Giancarlo
Posts: 851

Nov 30, 2021 -- 8:22PM, Paterson wrote:



    I'd move Stanton for an elite shortstop in a "New York" minute. It is not his fault, but you just cannot compare a DH to a SS.  




Do you consider Baez to be elite?   He costs more towards the luxury tax threshold per season than Stanton.


Semien has had 2 great seasons in his career, the rest have been about league average.    He costs more per year and for a longer deal.


And Stanton is actually a pretty good OF when they play him there.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2021 - 9:39PM #8
Paterson
Posts: 7,679

Nov 30, 2021 -- 9:09PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 8:22PM, Paterson wrote:



    I'd move Stanton for an elite shortstop in a "New York" minute. It is not his fault, but you just cannot compare a DH to a SS.  




Do you consider Baez to be elite?   He costs more towards the luxury tax threshold per season than Stanton.


Semien has had 2 great seasons in his career, the rest have been about league average.    He costs more per year and for a longer deal.


And Stanton is actually a pretty good OF when they play him there.




   Baez has the reputation as a very good defender in an era marked by great SS play. I think most would rate him no higher then 7th and maybe as low at 12th, but he is clearly still a fully capable major leaguer. 


    No matter how good a DH is, he only plays half the game. And when you have a DH who cannot play the field, your bench is very short 162 times each season. No knock on Stanton. He is a tremendous force when he is hitting, But the fact is that he plays half a position and consumes a full roster spot and 10% of the payroll. Not a great deal. 

6 months ago  ::  Dec 01, 2021 - 7:17AM #9
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,739

Nov 30, 2021 -- 8:10PM, Rob wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 7:00PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 6:44PM, BATS wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 5:48PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Big G has 6 years left over which the Yankees will pay him 159 million.   His cost against the tax threshold is 22 million.


So let's represent it as:  6/159/22


And let's compare that to some of the free agents that have come off the board:


Baez: 6/140/23


Semien: 7/175/25


Seager: 10/325/32.5


Scherzer: 3/130/43.3


For one of the games most potent power threats, and one of the most clutch post-season performers, Giancarlo's contract is starting to look pretty good.




The 159 mil, that you posted........that's accounts for just the Yankees right? I ask because, alot of the posters in this messageboard are not good with complex data to process in their heads (lol). I am obviously referring to Miami Marlin subsidy.


Just on a sidenote....


I am laughing my head off, looking at all the panic headlines from the online sports media. LOL....it's the same panic-stricken headlines that were being posted when the Yankees did not sign either Bryce Harper or Manny Machado. NOW....they are writing that WE HAVE TO/MUST sign Carlos Correa.


AMAZING!!!





It is what the Yankees have to pay him over the 6 years.   He will be paid 20 million more by the Marlins.   And there is a buyout for a 7th year which costs 10 million, but that will also be paid by the Fish.


Stanton now costs less against the luxury tax threshold than Baez does.   He's signed for less money and years than Semien.




As time goes on and IF (a very big "if") he stays healthy and produces the way he can when healthy, the contract will come oi be seen as a pretty good value.




Maybe and I say Maybe, his contract doesn't look so crazy and Ca$hman just might be able to get a trade done, even if they pick up a couple million or so, but they also might not want to trade him, his salary looks better all the time...


Does seem these owners are going crazy offering all these huge contracts ?? 


6 months ago  ::  Dec 01, 2021 - 7:23AM #10
Giancarlo
Posts: 851

Nov 30, 2021 -- 9:39PM, Paterson wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 9:09PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Nov 30, 2021 -- 8:22PM, Paterson wrote:



    I'd move Stanton for an elite shortstop in a "New York" minute. It is not his fault, but you just cannot compare a DH to a SS.  




Do you consider Baez to be elite?   He costs more towards the luxury tax threshold per season than Stanton.


Semien has had 2 great seasons in his career, the rest have been about league average.    He costs more per year and for a longer deal.


And Stanton is actually a pretty good OF when they play him there.




   Baez has the reputation as a very good defender in an era marked by great SS play. I think most would rate him no higher then 7th and maybe as low at 12th, but he is clearly still a fully capable major leaguer. 


    No matter how good a DH is, he only plays half the game. And when you have a DH who cannot play the field, your bench is very short 162 times each season. No knock on Stanton. He is a tremendous force when he is hitting, But the fact is that he plays half a position and consumes a full roster spot and 10% of the payroll. Not a great deal. 




He is a pretty capable outfielder, assuming he's healthy and that the Yankees aren't being over protective of him.   He's no JD Martinez who can barely play the field.   Stanton is about a 6 out of 10 type of outfielder.


How many other players hit like him in the post season?   I want a guy like that on my side.

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