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7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 8:55AM #1
newinn
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The offseason is usually filled with speculation on FA signings, trades, the GM meetings etc. While NY is suffering a competitive drought in our winter sports (except for the Rangers and Nets) baseball in NY has just given away the back pages. Just look at the understandable lack of conversation on the boards. Sad and imo stupid on both the owners and players parts.
7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 11:26AM #2
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,814

Jan 3, 2022 -- 8:55AM, newinn wrote:

The offseason is usually filled with speculation on FA signings, trades, the GM meetings etc. While NY is suffering a competitive drought in our winter sports (except for the Rangers and Nets) baseball in NY has just given away the back pages. Just look at the understandable lack of conversation on the boards. Sad and imo stupid on both the owners and players parts.



It's too bad todays game of baseball is all about the players and owners, and of course money !!! One thing that never comes to their minds is the fans, the ones who pay the absorbent prices for tickets, concessions, and jerseys/caps/ and other souvenirs... I agree the game is slowly being destroyed as it once was...

7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 11:49AM #3
Paterson
Posts: 7,807

Jan 3, 2022 -- 8:55AM, newinn wrote:

The offseason is usually filled with speculation on FA signings, trades, the GM meetings etc. While NY is suffering a competitive drought in our winter sports (except for the Rangers and Nets) baseball in NY has just given away the back pages. Just look at the understandable lack of conversation on the boards. Sad and imo stupid on both the owners and players parts.




    Right you are. The lesson we all learned from free agency is that it costs teams tens of millions of dollars in salary but it genrates hundreds of millions of dollars in free publicity. Baseball needs a commissioner who understands how to market sports in the 21st century and leave behind its 19th century model of labor relations. 

7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 12:49PM #4
bruner4329
Posts: 4,531

Jan 3, 2022 -- 8:55AM, newinn wrote:

The offseason is usually filled with speculation on FA signings, trades, the GM meetings etc. While NY is suffering a competitive drought in our winter sports (except for the Rangers and Nets) baseball in NY has just given away the back pages. Just look at the understandable lack of conversation on the boards. Sad and imo stupid on both the owners and players parts.



Stupid does not sufficently characterize the situation. With everything else going on in this country nobody wants to hear about a bunch of millionaires and billionaires crying about revenue sharing, etc. especially after all the big contracts that were signed just before the lockout. Think about it. Owners dishing out these contracts and players happy to accept them and then a few days later we have a lockdown because both sides have issues with the system. Lunacy. As you said we should be talking about FA signings and trade speculations during the hot stove period and instead we hear silence.

7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 3:57PM #5
Giancarlo
Posts: 1,148

It's definitely not ideal.   It is pretty much expected to happen every so often though as they work through a CBA, and the bargaining part is usually painful.


I don't really mind so long as they don't interrupt a season already in progress and end up cancelling the play-offs like they did in 1994.   That is just unacceptable.


IMO people will be back once the lockout is lifted and things will be intensely interesting as a flurry of moves will be made.   The only way they'll really hurt themselves is if this were to drag on to the point where there is no 2022 season at all, and I seriously doubt that will happen.


I don't want to see it shorten the 2022 season either or disturb the start of spring training.   We just went through a weird/shortened 2020 and there were some lingering effects of that felt in the 2021 season.  

7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 6:54PM #6
bumper
Posts: 11,456

Jan 3, 2022 -- 12:49PM, bruner4329 wrote:


Jan 3, 2022 -- 8:55AM, newinn wrote:

The offseason is usually filled with speculation on FA signings, trades, the GM meetings etc. While NY is suffering a competitive drought in our winter sports (except for the Rangers and Nets) baseball in NY has just given away the back pages. Just look at the understandable lack of conversation on the boards. Sad and imo stupid on both the owners and players parts.



Stupid does not sufficently characterize the situation. With everything else going on in this country nobody wants to hear about a bunch of millionaires and billionaires crying about revenue sharing, etc. especially after all the big contracts that were signed just before the lockout. Think about it. Owners dishing out these contracts and players happy to accept them and then a few days later we have a lockdown because both sides have issues with the system. Lunacy. As you said we should be talking about FA signings and trade speculations during the hot stove period and instead we hear silence.



yup that's the preposterous part. the owners were tripping over each other handing out some of the biggest contracts in sports history and suddenly it all stops because they can't agree on a new system. i'm actually surprised the owners went all in without knowing what the new terms of engagement were gonna be.


7 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2022 - 10:11PM #7
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Jan 3, 2022 -- 8:55AM, newinn wrote:

The offseason is usually filled with speculation on FA signings, trades, the GM meetings etc. While NY is suffering a competitive drought in our winter sports (except for the Rangers and Nets) baseball in NY has just given away the back pages. Just look at the understandable lack of conversation on the boards. Sad and imo stupid on both the owners and players parts.


You can't blame the players for not rolling over. The owners led by the useful idiot Manfred took their ball and went home. I hope Congress can stop fighting among themselves long enough to strip the antitrust exemption. The owners need a kick in the butt!

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