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5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2022 - 10:34AM #1
Rob
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Lots of chatter that the Yanks are considering trading for a gold glove 3B and playing him at SS until Peraza or Volpe arrive.  Aside from what seems like the more obvious move should they acquire Chapman - play him at his gold glove position, 3B, and let Urshela play SS. he is exactly the wrong type of player they should be adding, a right handed hitting low BA (.210 last year) high strike out type.


Both his BA and the underlying stats, exit velocity, hard hit rate, etc., have steadily declined the past several years.  Even assuming Chapman would be an above average defensive SS, a position he has played all of 10 innintgs in the majors, they would probably be better off with the now departed Wade or Velasquez.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2022 - 1:47PM #2
Giancarlo
Posts: 851

While he might rebound, I can just imagine how people here will react if he comes in and hits around .200 and puts up over 200 whiffs like he did in 2021.    He'd be Gallo II.


I think if the cost in a trade for him is cheap and they have reason to think he'd bounce back, then there are worse options.   He'd probably be fine at SS (although you are kind of wasting his elite defense at 3b).   His career OPS+ is 120 which is very respectable.   They must not think very highly of Gio's D at SS to want to put Chapman there and leave Gio at 3b (or maybe DJLM is ticketed to play 3b with Gio becoming a UT guy?   Or he does stay at 3b, DJLM plays 2b and Gleyber is the UT IF?).


It's an out of the box thinking kind of move.  I would rather see someone like Villar as I think he fits the team better.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2022 - 9:30PM #3
davis2
Posts: 19,213

Why don't they just find someone who can field SS adequately, and maybe hit a tad over his weight? They don't need a superstar everywhere, just a solid player!

5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2022 - 9:56PM #4
Rob
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Jan 4, 2022 -- 9:30PM, davis2 wrote:


Why don't they just find someone who can field SS adequately, and maybe hit a tad over his weight? They don't need a superstar everywhere, just a solid player!




they had that in Wade (188 lbs, .268 BA in 2022, 212 for his career but still over his weight) and Velasquez (170 lbs, .224/184) thoughh I admit they are unlikley to maintain those numbers playing 140+ games.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2022 - 10:27PM #5
davis2
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Jan 4, 2022 -- 9:56PM, Rob wrote:


Jan 4, 2022 -- 9:30PM, davis2 wrote:


Why don't they just find someone who can field SS adequately, and maybe hit a tad over his weight? They don't need a superstar everywhere, just a solid player!




they had that in Wade (188 lbs, .268 BA in 2022, 212 for his career but still over his weight) and Velasquez (170 lbs, .224/184) thoughh I admit they are unlikley to maintain those numbers playing 140+ games.



Actually a combinaton of those two could have been at least a temporary solution

5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2022 - 11:42AM #6
BATS
Posts: 278

Jan 4, 2022 -- 10:34AM, Rob wrote:


Lots of chatter that the Yanks are considering trading for a gold glove 3B and playing him at SS until Peraza or Volpe arrive.  Aside from what seems like the more obvious move should they acquire Chapman - play him at his gold glove position, 3B, and let Urshela play SS. he is exactly the wrong type of player they should be adding, a right handed hitting low BA (.210 last year) high strike out type.


Both his BA and the underlying stats, exit velocity, hard hit rate, etc., have steadily declined the past several years.  Even assuming Chapman would be an above average defensive SS, a position he has played all of 10 innintgs in the majors, they would probably be better off with the now departed Wade or Velasquez.




I've read about the chatter, as well. 


Though, what you mentioned makes sense, and assuming the chatter is true, there would have to be a reason for it. When I read stuff about Chapman, the subject of Olson is sometimes attached to it. This could potentially be one of those deals that, in order to get Olsen, you agree to take Chapman. 


Also, it's not set in stone, that if the Yankees were to acquire Chapman that they'll make him the SS. Cashman likes loves defensive flexibility. All in all, i do agree with you. If acquired, Chapman could ultimately be the 3rd baseman and Urshela the SS....we'll just have to wait and see. 


Lastly, at this point, no one can say that either Wade or Velasquez would be better than Matt Chapman. Not even close. Chapman, on the steps of the dugout, getting ready to enter the batters box, would force the opposing manager to run virtual managerial simulations in his head. Someone lilke Wade or Vesquez, definitely would not.


Cashman and the front office, must have stats that leaves them to believe that he would be a suitable offensive player if he changed teams or perhaps some other factor(s). It's also possible, that Matt Chapman could be looked at, as another Scott Brosius. All in all we have to know and understand the CONTEXT of Chapman's numbers, before we can rightfully assess and make a prediction, whether he would be successful as a Yankee. 

5 months ago  ::  Jan 06, 2022 - 4:56PM #7
manbot
Posts: 1,637

Cashman loves defensive flexibility?


Since when ??? What defensive flexibility do the Yankees have other than DJ can play an ok 3rd base and 2nd?

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