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Additions after lockout.
5 months ago  ::  Jan 08, 2022 - 7:40PM #1
Hobbs
Posts: 195

 The lockout will end at some point and the Yankees have alot of work to do if they want to compete in the division. There's been talk of adding a SS, 1st baseman, outfielder and pitcher. There was a discussion about this over on Pinstripe Alley. So I'll ask the question here, If the Yankees were to add 3 players after the lockout which 3 would you choose?


 Now we need to be realistic and consider financial and prospect costs. Some players to select from include.


Carlos Correa, Trevor Story, Andrelton Simmons, Isiah Kiner-Falefa, Matt Chapman, Matt Olson, Freddy Freeman, Anthony Rizzo, Seiya Suzuki, Ketel Marte, Bryan Reynolds, Kyle Schwarber, Brett Gardner, Sean Manaea, Frankie Montas, Chris Bassitt, Carlos Rodon, Luis Castillo, Danny Duffy, Wilson Contreras.... Feel free to add others if you wish.



My picks would be Trevor Story, Matt Olson and Sean Manaea although there are some other good combo's also. It could just as easily go with Freeman, Suzuki and Isiah Kiner-Falefa. 


What say you?

5 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2022 - 8:35AM #2
Giancarlo
Posts: 804

Jan 8, 2022 -- 7:40PM, Hobbs wrote:


 The lockout will end at some point and the Yankees have alot of work to do if they want to compete in the division. There's been talk of adding a SS, 1st baseman, outfielder and pitcher. There was a discussion about this over on Pinstripe Alley. So I'll ask the question here, If the Yankees were to add 3 players after the lockout which 3 would you choose?


 Now we need to be realistic and consider financial and prospect costs. Some players to select from include.


Carlos Correa, Trevor Story, Andrelton Simmons, Isiah Kiner-Falefa, Matt Chapman, Matt Olson, Freddy Freeman, Anthony Rizzo, Seiya Suzuki, Ketel Marte, Bryan Reynolds, Kyle Schwarber, Brett Gardner, Sean Manaea, Frankie Montas, Chris Bassitt, Carlos Rodon, Luis Castillo, Danny Duffy, Wilson Contreras.... Feel free to add others if you wish.



My picks would be Trevor Story, Matt Olson and Sean Manaea although there are some other good combo's also. It could just as easily go with Freeman, Suzuki and Isiah Kiner-Falefa. 


What say you?




It's very hard to say because we don't know what the new CBA will be yet.   


Consider Hal's preferences.   Except in the case of an exceptional player (like Cole), he is averse to giving out long/expensive free agent contracts.   That takes guys like Freeman, Correa and Story out of the picture.   Unless Story would take a one year Semien type of deal, and I am not sure he will do that.   He's probably going to want something like 5+ years at 20+ million per.   Hal won't go there.


Maybe they would take a shot at Suzuki - then again maybe the lockout drags out in to April or longer and Suzuki chooses to go back to Japan for another year.   I think Hal would like the idea of a posting fee not counting against whatever the new luxury tax threshold will be, along with the upside and relatively low yearly salary Suzuki is likely to command.   They're going to have competition for him if he is still around - in particular I think the Red Sox, who shipped out Renfroe, will be in on him.   San Francisco wants a RH bat.


If I'm being realistic, what Hal prefers to do is sign guys who will take short term deals - and to make trades for players who are also short term commitments.   That is why I think the Yankees have thought about trading for Chapman and trying him at SS (along with the presence of Peraza and Volpe).   He'd be here at a reasonable salary and for just one year.   Maybe they can build a deal with the As for one of their pitchers and Chapman.   If not Chapman I'd think they will look guys like Simmons, Villar and Iglesias.   Maybe they'd deal for IKF if Texas has a reasonable asking price.


I could see Rodon being a possibility, maybe on a Bauer-esque front-loaded deal with player options or an opt-out clause after one or two years.   Not that Rodon is going to get 40 million, but maybe for 20 million or so.   I think for a guaranteed year or two Hal might bite at that.   Maybe that's not enough and Rodon gets better offers.   But maybe he'd like to prove he's healthy and set up a really large payday.


I would love to see them deal for Olson.   The As will want a lot though.  But if this is my wish list, then I will say Olson, knowing he'll be costly in prospects (if it was up to me I'd base the deal around Gleyber).   I'd take Villar so long as it didn't take more than a 2 year deal to get him, and let him be the SS and hope Peraza/Volpe push him in to a super sub role.   I'd also give him some time in the OF.   And I'd sign Rodon if he'd take a short deal with a high salary.   His upside is sky high and I'd take the risk if he would do a "prove he's healthy" short contract.   He also wasn't offered the QO, so the Yankees could offer him a QO if he did leave as a FA and get back something (assuming the new CBA is like the old in that regard).


And why not, take a look at Suzuki as there are no true CF'ers to be had, at least at reasonable prices.   They should at least bid on him.  They could have a CF rotation of Suzuki/Gallo/Judge.   But as much as they've talked about getting an OF, I think in the end they will go with Hicks and react if he gets hurt by then making a trade.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2022 - 1:59PM #3
bruner4329
Posts: 4,482

I don't get these posts. We just came off a season where for the first half plus our lineup was a disaster with 8/9 RH bats. It wasn't until we got Rizzo that a semblance of balance was created. Now a year later all you guys are proposing is to add RH bats. How many times do we need to see that an unbalanced lineup won't work.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2022 - 2:47PM #4
Giancarlo
Posts: 804

Jan 9, 2022 -- 1:59PM, bruner4329 wrote:


I don't get these posts. We just came off a season where for the first half plus our lineup was a disaster with 8/9 RH bats. It wasn't until we got Rizzo that a semblance of balance was created. Now a year later all you guys are proposing is to add RH bats. How many times do we need to see that an unbalanced lineup won't work.




I said I wanted Olson and Villar, that's a lefty and switch hitter.


There are no good LH hitting OF'ers available who can play CF.   Maybe they could offer Jasson plus for someone like Reynolds or Mullins, but I doubt that's realistic.   Suzuki is someone they could realistically afford and whose contract and posting fee Hal would probably be OK with.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2022 - 3:21PM #5
Hobbs
Posts: 195

Jan 9, 2022 -- 1:59PM, bruner4329 wrote:


I don't get these posts. We just came off a season where for the first half plus our lineup was a disaster with 8/9 RH bats. It wasn't until we got Rizzo that a semblance of balance was created. Now a year later all you guys are proposing is to add RH bats. How many times do we need to see that an unbalanced lineup won't work.




I chose either  Olson or Freeman for 1st base, Both are lefthanded-hitters and we still have Gallo for better or worse plus Hicks is a switch hitter. The left handed SS I wanted is off the board and I don't see a viable left handed outfield option.


If you have some left-handed options please share them.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2022 - 7:23PM #6
bruner4329
Posts: 4,482

Jan 9, 2022 -- 3:21PM, Hobbs wrote:


Jan 9, 2022 -- 1:59PM, bruner4329 wrote:


I don't get these posts. We just came off a season where for the first half plus our lineup was a disaster with 8/9 RH bats. It wasn't until we got Rizzo that a semblance of balance was created. Now a year later all you guys are proposing is to add RH bats. How many times do we need to see that an unbalanced lineup won't work.




I chose either  Olson or Freeman for 1st base, Both are lefthanded-hitters and we still have Gallo for better or worse plus Hicks is a switch hitter. The left handed SS I wanted is off the board and I don't see a viable left handed outfield option.


If you have some left-handed options please share them.




The makeup of this team has to change otherwise we will struggle to compete in this division. We need to add a couple of high average high contact hitters with speed. You can't have a lineup with 7/8 guys trying to hit the ball 500 feet all the time. If we get a legitimate lead off hitter you can drop DJ to the 2 hole and the lineup becomes better. I am not sure what it will take but we need to at least see what it would take to acquire a Mullens or Marte.


The thought of having Gallo and Hicks in the lineup every day makes me sick. Gallo in a good year might hit .210 and Hicks is a .230 lifetime hitter. Your talking about a team that struggled to put hits together and you want to repeat the same old approach. It won't work.


All I will say is that if Gallo and Hicks are in the starting outfield come opening day then we are destined for a bad season.

5 months ago  ::  Jan 09, 2022 - 7:48PM #7
Hobbs
Posts: 195

I agree with everything you said. It's the available options that Hal will authorize is the issue.

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