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6 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2022 - 1:33PM #21
Max
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Jan 21, 2022 -- 10:47AM, NW wrote:


Jan 21, 2022 -- 10:21AM, bertram wrote:


Biden and the rest of NATO are responding to the commie threats against the Ukraine.  This ain't gonna be a rerun of Trump's Helsinki kowtowing...




The Ukrainian president blasted Biden for his comments at his news conference.  




If that's true, then he and whomever parrots him needs to pay more attention to Biden's news conference, because Biden cleared up any misunderstanding in the same news conference. 

6 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2022 - 2:00PM #22
bertram
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The Russkies are being weaned off the Trump compliance and complicity that they had become accustomed to.  Bad Vlad doesn't have his NATO-bashing Orange Puppet any longer. 

6 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2022 - 10:18AM #23
bertram
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Former Defense Secretary William Cohen's analysis of Putin's thinking on Ukraine is spot-on.  Bad Vlad is counting on Donald Trump being re-elected in 2024 so The Orange Menace can roll back any sanctions imposed on the Russkies following an invasion.  Putin knows he can hold out until the White House is back in his sphere of influence.  A vote for Trump will be a vote for the commies.

6 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2022 - 11:18AM #24
laurenfrances
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Jan 21, 2022 -- 1:33PM, Max wrote:


Jan 21, 2022 -- 10:47AM, NW wrote:


Jan 21, 2022 -- 10:21AM, bertram wrote:


Biden and the rest of NATO are responding to the commie threats against the Ukraine.  This ain't gonna be a rerun of Trump's Helsinki kowtowing...




The Ukrainian president blasted Biden for his comments at his news conference.  




If that's true, then he and whomever parrots him needs to pay more attention to Biden's news conference, because Biden cleared up any misunderstanding in the same news conference. 




The Maga folks would not be caught dead watching Biden's news conference.  

6 months ago  ::  Jan 23, 2022 - 8:49AM #25
bertram
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Would the American electorate really put Trump back in a position to kiss Putin's ring?

6 months ago  ::  Jan 23, 2022 - 8:52AM #26
bertram
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Putin aims to install a puppet government in the Ukraine...kinda like he helped the Republican Party do here in 2016.  Bad Vlad doesn't need to nuke us; all he needs to do is empower the GOP and stoke division and civil strife.

6 months ago  ::  Jan 23, 2022 - 9:56AM #27
louisiana_lightning
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Why do you keep posting such nonsense Bert?  To date between Obama, Trump, and Biden it was Trump with the far tougher sanctions.  Why did Biden repeal sanctions?  To re-impose them later?  Russia, China, and Iran are teamed as an axis power.  Each trying to destabilize neighbors, install puppets, and conquer and they are engaged in joint military exercises.
Meanwhile the West is playing Paris Climate Accords bs.  France decommisioning nuclear power so they too can be beholden to dirty fuel from Russia like Germany.  Trump tried to prevent this, he guilted into achieving their NATO obligations.  He bevged them to buy our cleaner natural gas.  Now we too are recieving fossil fuels from Russia at significant rates again.  What next Vwnezuela?
6 months ago  ::  Jan 23, 2022 - 10:42AM #28
NY23
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No, Trump has not been ‘tough’ on Russia


Last month, the Treasury Department announced new sanctions against four Kremlin-linked figures for their efforts to interfere in the upcoming U.S. presidential election. The measures were met with acclaim as a long-awaited response to Russia’s interventions in American democracy.


In reality, though, these measures are little more than a pin**** — the latest episode in a long history of efforts by the Trump administration to appear tough on Russia while actually signaling to the Kremlin that U.S. elections remain open to interference. The simple fact is that even harsh-looking sanctions have little impact when there’s zero political will to enforce them.


Read the full article in The Washington Post.



6 months ago  ::  Jan 23, 2022 - 11:01AM #29
Max
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Jan 23, 2022 -- 9:56AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

Why do you keep posting such nonsense Bert? To date between Obama, Trump, and Biden it was Trump with the far tougher sanctions. Why did Biden repeal sanctions? To re-impose them later? Russia, China, and Iran are teamed as an axis power. Each trying to destabilize neighbors, install puppets, and conquer and they are engaged in joint military exercises. Meanwhile the West is playing Paris Climate Accords bs. France decommisioning nuclear power so they too can be beholden to dirty fuel from Russia like Germany. Trump tried to prevent this, he guilted into achieving their NATO obligations. He bevged them to buy our cleaner natural gas. Now we too are recieving fossil fuels from Russia at significant rates again. What next Vwnezuela?




Trump tried to ease the Obama sanctions on Russia.


Did you  forget that Congress getting Trump to impose sanctions on Russia was like pulling teeth.


Biden repealed sactions on the pipeline to help Germany.


Russia, China and Iran have been teamed for a long time now. Which is why the Obama nuke treaty with Iran was so important, but as usual Trump screwed that up. Talk about easing sactions, that's just what Trump did when he pulled out of that treaty.


The Paris Climate Accords aren't bs. That's just an unproven talking point.


France and Germany along with many other countries are moving closer to alternative energy, but it takes time.


Trump played right into Putin's hand and caused friction in NATO.


In what world is gas considered clean?


The US is getting more oil from Russia because of the sanctions imposed on Venezuela in 2019.


Not sure why anyone that would vote for Trump would object to getting oil from Venezuela, since I'm pretty sure that some of those same people who criticize Maduro would be holding the door open for him and spit shinning his shoes if they agreed with his politics.




6 months ago  ::  Jan 23, 2022 - 10:13PM #30
NW
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Jan 23, 2022 -- 11:01AM, Max wrote:


Jan 23, 2022 -- 9:56AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:

Why do you keep posting such nonsense Bert? To date between Obama, Trump, and Biden it was Trump with the far tougher sanctions. Why did Biden repeal sanctions? To re-impose them later? Russia, China, and Iran are teamed as an axis power. Each trying to destabilize neighbors, install puppets, and conquer and they are engaged in joint military exercises. Meanwhile the West is playing Paris Climate Accords bs. France decommisioning nuclear power so they too can be beholden to dirty fuel from Russia like Germany. Trump tried to prevent this, he guilted into achieving their NATO obligations. He bevged them to buy our cleaner natural gas. Now we too are recieving fossil fuels from Russia at significant rates again. What next Vwnezuela?




Trump tried to ease the Obama sanctions on Russia.


Did you  forget that Congress getting Trump to impose sanctions on Russia was like pulling teeth.


Biden repealed sactions on the pipeline to help Germany.


Russia, China and Iran have been teamed for a long time now. Which is why the Obama nuke treaty with Iran was so important, but as usual Trump screwed that up. Talk about easing sactions, that's just what Trump did when he pulled out of that treaty.


The Paris Climate Accords aren't bs. That's just an unproven talking point.


France and Germany along with many other countries are moving closer to alternative energy, but it takes time.


Trump played right into Putin's hand and caused friction in NATO.


In what world is gas considered clean?


The US is getting more oil from Russia because of the sanctions imposed on Venezuela in 2019.


Not sure why anyone that would vote for Trump would object to getting oil from Venezuela, since I'm pretty sure that some of those same people who criticize Maduro would be holding the door open for him and spit shinning his shoes if they agreed with his politics.




Holy cow Max!  You sound like a Republican with that statement!  That's just what Republicans have been advocating all along; a move to renewable energy but concurrently increasing our ability to remain energy independent and to advance more efficient uses of fossil fuels.


The U.S. was actually doing a good job of this under Obama with alternative energy use increasing while at the same time we were using fossil fuels at a higher level of efficiency.  Even though Trump reversed some of that, industry has still been pushing the efficiency standards.


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