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4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 12:30PM #1
newinn
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I've never in my life judged a team on 10, 20 even 30 games good or bad. Maybe Cole goes on to win 20 and maybe they're in a dog fight for the playoffs but it doesn't change the fact that I don't see how they can reclaim some of the excitement of that '17 team. They just don't seem to have any spark or play an exciting brand of baseball.

4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 12:49PM #2
Paterson
Posts: 8,198

Apr 20, 2022 -- 12:30PM, newinn wrote:


I've never in my life judged a team on 10, 20 even 30 games good or bad. Maybe Cole goes on to win 20 and maybe they're in a dog fight for the playoffs but it doesn't change the fact that I don't see how they can reclaim some of the excitement of that '17 team. They just don't seem to have any spark or play an exciting brand of baseball.




    And maybe we are all a little annoyed at MLB for the delay to the start of the season. All of that impacts on us, but the games are bad. Last night ti took almost four hours to decide a game that had no big plays. Part of this is modern baseball, put some of it is the team on the field. I am tired of the old retreads (Josh Donaldson) and the long term rentals. I want to watch guys from my own system who I can connect with. 

4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 1:26PM #3
bruner4329
Posts: 4,688

Its not really the first 10 or 20 games or being too soon. What we have seen so far is a continuation of what we saw last year. A lot of strike outs, poor RISP average and long droughts between putting hits together. Last year take away that one stretch in August-early September this team is a mirror image of last year. Remember we struggled the last 10-12 games last year not to mention the WC game.


We won last night but take away that pop up in the first inning that fell we scored only 2 runs and this coming after we got shut out by Baltimore on Sunday. Again too many guys in the lineup that are bad hitters. Gallo is a human K machine placed in the middle of the order, Donaldson has been unproductive, Torres is the 2021 Torres and Higgy isn't even close to his underwhelming lifetime average. And BTW don't think LoCastro is the solution to replacing Gallo. 

4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 2:55PM #4
Max
Posts: 10,349

Apr 20, 2022 -- 12:30PM, newinn wrote:


I've never in my life judged a team on 10, 20 even 30 games good or bad. Maybe Cole goes on to win 20 and maybe they're in a dog fight for the playoffs but it doesn't change the fact that I don't see how they can reclaim some of the excitement of that '17 team. They just don't seem to have any spark or play an exciting brand of baseball.




Most teams without a good leadoff hitter don't have a spark. Rivers, White, Randolph, Rickey, Knobby, Gardner, Jeter, in their primes all were sparks for their teams. Also, so many strikeouts in a lineup doesn't make for an exciting brand of baseball. I'm just sharing my opinion. I'm not saying anything that you don't already know. 

4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 5:14PM #5
1955nyyfan
Posts: 3,582
I usually dont judge a team so quickly either, but it just feels like the formula is off but rather than making a change, they do the same thing expecting different results. I think that is why so many long term fans are frustrated so early. Maybe they do turn it around and some of us have egg on our face.
4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 6:02PM #6
Thurm15
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Apr 20, 2022 -- 12:30PM, newinn wrote:


I've never in my life judged a team on 10, 20 even 30 games good or bad. Maybe Cole goes on to win 20 and maybe they're in a dog fight for the playoffs but it doesn't change the fact that I don't see how they can reclaim some of the excitement of that '17 team. They just don't seem to have any spark or play an exciting brand of baseball.




That was a much different and better balanced team. The moves Cashman made since then is built for the regular season and making the playoffs, not to win a championship. 

4 months ago  ::  Apr 20, 2022 - 11:47PM #7
bruner4329
Posts: 4,688

This kind of sums it up. To me some key points:


The pitching looks very good most days. They show heart. They just don’t hit enough.One scout put it simply: “They need more contact, fewer strikeouts. They need guys who can hit.”


Gallo’s OPS is .377, Torres’ is .491 and Donaldson’s is .538. Add them up and they surpass Jose Ramirez. Maybe.The Yankees’ front office, a consistent producer of winners for decades, had many chances to add weapons, but deferred at every turn.



nypost.com/2022/04/20/joey-gallo-gleyber...

4 months ago  ::  Apr 21, 2022 - 7:23AM #8
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,913

I've always said nothing good ever happens with a strike out !!! This team strikes out way too often, there's not enough contact hitters in the lineup.. They don't foul off enough pitches, it's almost a known strike out when they fall behind in the count... Judge/Stanton/Gallo/go out of the strike zone to often when they get behind in the count... Hicks usually does the same thing, but he's off to a great start, lets hope he can continue ?? Our new SS is finally getting to where we hoped he would be, he puts the ball in play, he and DJL are the two players on this team that do that better than anyone else... Higgy is what he is, I know he had a great spring, but that was mostly against AA quality pitching if even that, but he does make contact over 50% of the time..


This team is built on home runs or nothing, as much as I love Judge, I think he's asking for too much money and would pass on him for a couple of good contact hitters... With the money he wants there are players that will do this team more good... Ca$hman/Hal have to start to rebuild this team with more hitters than sluggers... Our pitching is good enough, our BP is as good as anyone's... We just have to hit better with runners in scoring position...


Again, nothing good happens with a strike out !!!

4 months ago  ::  Apr 22, 2022 - 9:17AM #9
Rob
Posts: 2,896

At 7-6 that translates to 87 wins over 162 games.  Seems about right for the current edition.  The good news, such as it is, is that neither the Rays, Jays or Sox have sprinted out so far though Toronto, having taken 2 of 3 from the Sox at Fenway and sitting at 8-5, are pot4entially the team that might.

4 months ago  ::  Apr 22, 2022 - 2:11PM #10
Dakota1369
Posts: 570

I think Donaldson will come around to be the guy on the back of his baseball card. However, I don't have much faith in Gallo or Torres and that would be two offensive black holes along with catcher in the lineup.But, I've lived through bleak times before, 65-75 and 82-94, so I can handle a little rough weather. 

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