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4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 5:33PM #31
louisiana_lightning
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Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:28PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:00PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Not a single Southwesterner or even, to tell the truth, a genuine Westerner (California does not count).


Not a single evangelical Christian... 




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Why doesn't California "count" as Western State? Doesn't fit your narrative?


You do realize Catholicism is Christianity...in fact the original Christianity...right?




Those were Scalia's words.  He was arguing that 9 lifetime appointed elitists should not be creating law.

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 5:35PM #32
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 22,059

Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:29PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:27PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


I waish to conserve the revolutionary principles of the American founding that created a renaissance of individual liberty, prosperity, and upward mobility never before imagined that inspired the world.  To oppose conserving that is regressive.




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You are so FOS. You want to impose your warped philosophy and morality on everyone...just as any self-respecting fascist would do.





Not remotely fascistic.  Just more ad hominem and strawmanning from Bob.

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 5:35PM #33
SSBob
Posts: 11,574

Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:33PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:28PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:00PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Not a single Southwesterner or even, to tell the truth, a genuine Westerner (California does not count).


Not a single evangelical Christian... 




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Why doesn't California "count" as Western State? Doesn't fit your narrative?


You do realize Catholicism is Christianity...in fact the original Christianity...right?




Those were Scalia's words.  He was arguing that 9 lifetime appointed elitists should not be creating law.




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So...you disagree with Scalia...right?

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 5:39PM #34
SSBob
Posts: 11,574

Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:35PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:29PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:27PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


I waish to conserve the revolutionary principles of the American founding that created a renaissance of individual liberty, prosperity, and upward mobility never before imagined that inspired the world.  To oppose conserving that is regressive.




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You are so FOS. You want to impose your warped philosophy and morality on everyone...just as any self-respecting fascist would do.




Not remotely fascistic.  Just more ad hominem and strawmanning from Bob.




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You have no problem calling others here "socialists', a gross misuse of the word.


I have absolutely no doubt you're a fascist at heart, but maybe I've given you too much credit. I suppose it’s entirely possible you’re so gullible as to believe the majority of the Republican Party isn’t opposed to democracy…that you’ll be one of the many to be “shocked” when autocratic rule takes hold.


But I’m sure you’ll quickly adapt & fall in line when/if that happens.

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 6:05PM #35
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 22,059

Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:39PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:35PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:29PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 5:27PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


I waish to conserve the revolutionary principles of the American founding that created a renaissance of individual liberty, prosperity, and upward mobility never before imagined that inspired the world.  To oppose conserving that is regressive.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


You are so FOS. You want to impose your warped philosophy and morality on everyone...just as any self-respecting fascist would do.




Not remotely fascistic.  Just more ad hominem and strawmanning from Bob.




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You have no problem calling others here "socialists', a gross misuse of the word.


I have absolutely no doubt you're a fascist at heart, but maybe I've given you too much credit. I suppose it’s entirely possible you’re so gullible as to believe the majority of the Republican Party isn’t opposed to democracy…that you’ll be one of the many to be “shocked” when autocratic rule takes hold.


But I’m sure you’ll quickly adapt & fall in line when/if that happens.




The term statist hasn't really caught on.  I don't respect politicians that don't respect incentives or blind justice.  I will always oppose ochlarchy and believe most politicians and bureaucrats are filthy so we need not cede more power to them than absolutely necessary.  How many of our government agencies and top corporations are littered with siblings, spouses, and children of those regulating them?  Martha Stewart would blush at the insider trading our politicians engage in.  Then you get an AOC crying about her $17k student loan debt which is less than 10% of her salary.  

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 6:18PM #36
SSBob
Posts: 11,574

Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:05PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


The term statist hasn't really caught on.  I don't respect politicians that don't respect incentives or blind justice.  I will always oppose ochlarchy and believe most politicians and bureaucrats are filthy so we need not cede more power to them than absolutely necessary.  How many of our government agencies and top corporations are littered with siblings, spouses, and children of those regulating them?  Martha Stewart would blush at the insider trading our politicians engage in.  Then you get an AOC crying about her $17k student loan debt which is less than 10% of her salary.  




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So, you acknowledge any "progressive" here or in elected office isn't a "socialist"...right? You and others simply use the word to mislead the ignorant, and denigrate those who don't toe your line.


As for "littered with siblings, spouses, and children" you need look no further than your boy Donnie. 


For someone who claims to have such disdain for politicians, you sure have a lot of love for "Ron". I hope for your sake Ted, Marco & Rand aren’t jealous types.




4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 6:44PM #37
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 22,059

Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:18PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:05PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


The term statist hasn't really caught on.  I don't respect politicians that don't respect incentives or blind justice.  I will always oppose ochlarchy and believe most politicians and bureaucrats are filthy so we need not cede more power to them than absolutely necessary.  How many of our government agencies and top corporations are littered with siblings, spouses, and children of those regulating them?  Martha Stewart would blush at the insider trading our politicians engage in.  Then you get an AOC crying about her $17k student loan debt which is less than 10% of her salary.  




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So, you acknowledge any "progressive" here or in elected office isn't a "socialist"...right? You and others simply use the word to mislead the ignorant, and denigrate those who don't toe your line.


As for "littered with siblings, spouses, and children" you need look no further than your boy Donnie. 


For someone who claims to have such disdain for politicians, you sure have a lot of love for "Ron". I hope for your sake Ted, Marco & Rand aren’t jealous types.




Forget Donnie, look at the Biden clan with Hunter, Frank, James, and Valerie.


Most will begrudgingly accept that communal ownership of the means of production is impractical and fraught with negative incentives that undermine the enterprise.  Most progressives subscribe to the economics of fascism or corporatism where private ownership is tolerated with government regulation and manipulation that stifles innovation and production but insulates chosen businesses from competion through onerous compliance that an established company can offset while overwhelming small underfunded competition.


Despite what you say I am not a fan of this 3rd way or fascistic corporatism.


ANTIFA, Boogaloos, Jane's Revenge, KKK, etc are all terrorists to me that should be exposed and pay for their crimes.  I would include gangs and mafia in that.


The left like to spout a lot of rhetoric that has it's intellectual origins in socialism.


I will say outright that the ideas of equal opportunity and equity in outcome are comepletely incompatible.  In fact if there was true equity of outcome the logical thing to do would to be an uproductive spendthrift.

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 6:48PM #38
SSBob
Posts: 11,574

Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:44PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Forget Donnie...




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Of course, you'd like everyone to. Is that the same as "California doesn't count"?

4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 6:55PM #39
SSBob
Posts: 11,574

Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:44PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


ANTIFA, Boogaloos, Jane's Revenge, KKK, etc are all terrorists to me that should be exposed and pay for their crimes.  I would include gangs and mafia in that.




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Can't help but notice you didn't mention the incredibly inaccurately named "Proud Boys", "Oath Keepers", "3 Percenters", etc.


4 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2022 - 6:59PM #40
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 22,059

Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:55PM, SSBob wrote:


Jun 25, 2022 -- 6:44PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


ANTIFA, Boogaloos, Jane's Revenge, KKK, etc are all terrorists to me that should be exposed and pay for their crimes.  I would include gangs and mafia in that.




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Can't help but notice you didn't name the incredibly inaccurately named "Proud Boys", "Oath Keepers", "3 Percenters", etc.





Those too.  I would never back down to an attack but anyone that goes out looking for trouble should find it, and not the glory they hope for but legal trouble for disturbing the peace.

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