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1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 1:35PM #1
Paterson
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    For the sake of debate:



    If you are Brian Cashman and know the Yankees are not resigning Aaron Judge, how do you deal      with the trade deadline ? 



   Do you go all out and try to obtain Soto and Montas and hope you win the WS now "



   Do you spend carefully and plan on a rebuild around Volpe and Dominguez ?



   Do you do just enough to win at least a few postseason games ?   


 





1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 1:50PM #2
Max
Posts: 12,291

Aug 1, 2022 -- 1:35PM, Paterson wrote:


    For the sake of debate:



    If you are Brian Cashman and know the Yankees are not resigning Aaron Judge, how do you deal      with the trade deadline ? 



   Do you go all out and try to obtain Soto and Montas and hope you win the WS now "



   Do you spend carefully and plan on a rebuild around Volpe and Dominguez ?



   Do you do just enough to win at least a few postseason games ?   


 




If Cashman knows that Judge is definitely leaving, Then in my opinion, the move to make is to trade for Soto.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 2:03PM #3
BATS
Posts: 339

Aug 1, 2022 -- 1:50PM, Max wrote:


Aug 1, 2022 -- 1:35PM, Paterson wrote:


    For the sake of debate:



    If you are Brian Cashman and know the Yankees are not resigning Aaron Judge, how do you deal      with the trade deadline ? 



   Do you go all out and try to obtain Soto and Montas and hope you win the WS now "



   Do you spend carefully and plan on a rebuild around Volpe and Dominguez ?



   Do you do just enough to win at least a few postseason games ?   


 




If Cashman knows that Judge is definitely leaving, Then in my opinion, the move to make is to trade for Soto.




I don't think so. The proper move would find a power bat in free agent market.


When the Seattle Mariners lost Ken Griffey Jr., were they desperate to find a replacement power bat, with 1:1 numbers, elsewhere? They even went on to set the record with most wins in a single season.


I am not going to play this debate, but I do feel like I have to retort your "opinion".

1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 2:27PM #4
bumper
Posts: 14,339

Aug 1, 2022 -- 1:35PM, Paterson wrote:


    For the sake of debate:



    If you are Brian Cashman and know the Yankees are not resigning Aaron Judge, how do you deal      with the trade deadline ? 


 



perhaps they're punting on judge but that's pretty hard to do w the season he's having. gonna assume they're at least in on him. while did think the offer they made was a little light but fair, the market will now set the price. before they were bidding against themselves, now they'll be bidding against other teams.


but guess if you already know you're not resigning him, then soto becomes an option - almost a must because losing judge will leave a gigantic hole. if effross was worth a #7 prospect (which folks are complaining about), can only imagine what soto will cost. not sure of the other "filling judge's shoes" options.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 2:31PM #5
Max
Posts: 12,291

Aug 1, 2022 -- 2:03PM, BATS wrote:


Aug 1, 2022 -- 1:50PM, Max wrote:


Aug 1, 2022 -- 1:35PM, Paterson wrote:


    For the sake of debate:



    If you are Brian Cashman and know the Yankees are not resigning Aaron Judge, how do you deal      with the trade deadline ? 



   Do you go all out and try to obtain Soto and Montas and hope you win the WS now "



   Do you spend carefully and plan on a rebuild around Volpe and Dominguez ?



   Do you do just enough to win at least a few postseason games ?   


 




If Cashman knows that Judge is definitely leaving, Then in my opinion, the move to make is to trade for Soto.




I don't think so. The proper move would find a power bat in free agent market.


When the Seattle Mariners lost Ken Griffey Jr., were they desperate to find a replacement power bat, with 1:1 numbers, elsewhere? They even went on to set the record with most wins in a single season.


I am not going to play this debate, but I do feel like I have to retort your "opinion".




What you suggested would be the proper move, but there aren't any other free agent power bats available unless Arenado opts out of his contract, which isn't a guarantee. J.D. Martinez will be 35 years old soon. Martinez is not a replacement for Judge.


Brandon Nimmo would be an excellent fit for Yankees. He leads off, he's lefty and he plays CF. But no one would confuse him with being a power hitter or being another Ichiro.


The Mariners set the record for wins 2 years after Griffey left. The year they set the win record, they also had a player named Ichiro, who picked up the slack and Bret Boone who had a career year. They also haven't made the playoffs since their win record setting year.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 2:52PM #6
Giancarlo
Posts: 4,872

They're in on both Montas and Soto, so Cashman is taking that approach.   Soto especially would cost a ton from the farm and could mean guys like Volpe and/or Dominguez head out of town.    They're going for the WS.


But, the Yanks have no control over what other teams offer, and what teams like the Nats and As think of the value of Yankee trade chips vs what other teams maybe offering.   Cashman is not one to like overpaying in deals.


They're also casting a wide net for backup options.   Had not seen anyone mention Effross as a potential trade target - D-Rob from the Cubs was seen as much more likely.   Someone not named Soto could be brought in.   After this trade it's clear a lot of what GMs talk about never makes it to the media.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 4:03PM #7
qwik3457
Posts: 12,819

Supposedly, the Nats GM Rizzo is not very enamored of Volpe, so the odds of the Yanks trading for Soto are much lower than say, the Dodgers, Padres or Cards.

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1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 9:19PM #8
laurenfrances
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Red Sox traded Vázquez to Astros. Kind of weird that Red Sox is presently playing  series against Astros.
1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 9:30PM #9
Paterson
Posts: 10,066

Aug 1, 2022 -- 9:19PM, laurenfrances wrote:

Red Sox traded Vázquez to Astros. Kind of weird that Red Sox is presently playing series against Astros.



    The Sox alsoe acquired 34 year old Tommy Pham. It is not clear what they are thinking.


    I heard the story that they did not tell Vazquez until after the meeting where they discuss pitching strategy for the game.  

1 year ago  ::  Aug 01, 2022 - 10:43PM #10
laurenfrances
Posts: 50,441

Aug 1, 2022 -- 9:30PM, Paterson wrote:


Aug 1, 2022 -- 9:19PM, laurenfrances wrote:

Red Sox traded Vázquez to Astros. Kind of weird that Red Sox is presently playing series against Astros.



    The Sox alsoe acquired 34 year old Tommy Pham. It is not clear what they are thinking.


    I heard the story that they did not tell Vazquez until after the meeting where they discuss pitching strategy for the game.  




I'm looking for Red Sox to beat Astros as Yankees maintain best record in AL...


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