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2 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2022 - 11:58AM #1
1955nyyfan
Posts: 3,928

I would guess that one of the hallmarks of recent Yankee teams is that they hit a lot of HRs. I think another hallmark could be that they are extremely inconsistent. My question is, why is that? 


I don't follow other good teams as closely as I do the Yankees but is this just a norm, e.g. all good teams go through this. With the Yankees the extremes just seem to be so big. I mean they are capable of playing long stretches where it looks as if they are unbeatable, followed by stretches where it looks as if they couldn't beat a good junior college team. 


This season has been another one in which 3/4 of the way through the season we are trying to figure out who they are. At the beginning of the year, I thought they were an 88 - 90 team win. Even after the great start, I thought things would level off. When we got to the halfway mark and the team was still playing at a historic pace I started to believe this team might be special. The fact that we were getting great pitching from not only the starters but the relievers led me to believe it might  be sustainable. 


Now, I'm starting  to wonder if this team can do some damage in the playoffs or if we will be seeing an early exit. Help me out here, what are you feeling? 




2 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2022 - 12:29PM #2
SSBob
Posts: 11,574

I'm not ready to hit the panic button. Every team goes thru highs & lows over the course of a very long season. As I believe Kay pointed out yesterday only 3 teams in MLB have not had 5 game losing streaks.


Holmes has hit a rough patch, and the loss of King didn't help. Stanton has missed 30 games, and the loss of Rizzo for the Cardinal series certainly had an impact. Yanks were in all 3 of those games; 2 of the 3 games were lost by one run. Cards defense, particularly Nootbaar, cost the Yanks a few runs.

2 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2022 - 1:07PM #3
bumper
Posts: 12,599

Aug 8, 2022 -- 12:29PM, SSBob wrote:


I'm not ready to hit the panic button. Every team goes thru highs & lows over the course of a very long season. As I believe Kay pointed out yesterday only 3 teams in MLB have not had 5 game losing streaks.


Holmes has hit a rough patch, and the loss of King didn't help. Stanton has missed 30 games, and the loss of Rizzo for the Cardinal series certainly had an impact. Yanks were in all 3 of those games; 2 of the 3 games were lost by one run. Cards defense, particularly Nootbaar, cost the Yanks a few runs.




exactly my sentiments SS. the loss of king is huge. others need to step up there. and yes holmes has hit a rough patch. losing stanton & rizzo shortens the lineup significantly.


while i felt we traded some needed SP pitching depth, ultimately think the trades are a net positive.


as i said in an other thread, this team is not the .750 team they were for the 1st half and they're not the .360 team they've been for the last month. they're somewhere in between and hopefully closer to the .750 team. we'll see when all the games have been played.

2 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2022 - 2:39PM #4
mscamaguey
Posts: 1,468

When is Stanton coming back?


Jacob DeGrom returned to the Mets Mound after 13 months of absence and he was flawless and had a  perfect game going into the six. The Mets have been the reverse of the Yanks.


Yank's Starting pitcher and pen yesterday imploded. Montas and the rest no matter how many runs the Yanks scored, the Cardinals scored more. This worries me. The Entire Yank ineptitude lately scares me.


Monty got a win on Saturday and allowed no run. 


Seattle tonight and I have no clue what to expect 

2 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2022 - 4:30PM #5
bikeboff
Posts: 250

The Yankees keep playing bad players.  Hicks  should  not  be  in  the  lineup. Torres  should  sit  for  awhile  and  should not be batting 4th.  They sent their best reliever back to Scranton.  They do stupid  things. Its a wonder they don't lose more often.  I  wouldn't be surprised if they are swept by the Mariners. Cashman just  isn't a good  GM.  Yeah  he's done  a  few  good  trades  but  way  way  more  bad  ones. The Mets  don't  seem to put up with nonsense. Spunky  players ,  they don't try to hit a home run every at bat.  I  was  impressed  with  Degrom. Looked like he had  never  been  out  of  the  game.  A  true  ace.

2 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2022 - 6:43PM #6
hampfan
Posts: 3,738

Aug 8, 2022 -- 4:30PM, bikeboff wrote:


The Yankees keep playing bad players.  Hicks  should  not  be  in  the  lineup. Torres  should  sit  for  awhile  and  should not be batting 4th.  They sent their best reliever back to Scranton.  They do stupid  things. Its a wonder they don't lose more often.  I  wouldn't be surprised if they are swept by the Mariners. Cashman just  isn't a good  GM.  Yeah  he's done  a  few  good  trades  but  way  way  more  bad  ones. The Mets  don't  seem to put up with nonsense. Spunky  players ,  they don't try to hit a home run every at bat.  I  was  impressed  with  Degrom. Looked like he had  never  been  out  of  the  game.  A  true  ace.




 


I agree, but the truth hurts.

2 months ago  ::  Aug 09, 2022 - 7:42AM #7
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,996

Aug 8, 2022 -- 12:29PM, SSBob wrote:


I'm not ready to hit the panic button. Every team goes thru highs & lows over the course of a very long season. As I believe Kay pointed out yesterday only 3 teams in MLB have not had 5 game losing streaks.


Holmes has hit a rough patch, and the loss of King didn't help. Stanton has missed 30 games, and the loss of Rizzo for the Cardinal series certainly had an impact. Yanks were in all 3 of those games; 2 of the 3 games were lost by one run. Cards defense, particularly Nootbaar, cost the Yanks a few runs.




I kind of took the Cardinal series as one that we didn't get the ball to bounce our way at all... It happens, any game, someone has to have a bit of luck,  no doubt the Cards got their share of good luck, and the umpires didn't help either ...

2 months ago  ::  Aug 09, 2022 - 1:49PM #8
jimwest
Posts: 5,190

Aug 8, 2022 -- 11:58AM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


I would guess that one of the hallmarks of recent Yankee teams is that they hit a lot of HRs. I think another hallmark could be that they are extremely inconsistent. My question is, why is that? 


I don't follow other good teams as closely as I do the Yankees but is this just a norm, e.g. all good teams go through this. With the Yankees the extremes just seem to be so big. I mean they are capable of playing long stretches where it looks as if they are unbeatable, followed by stretches where it looks as if they couldn't beat a good junior college team. 


This season has been another one in which 3/4 of the way through the season we are trying to figure out who they are. At the beginning of the year, I thought they were an 88 - 90 team win. Even after the great start, I thought things would level off. When we got to the halfway mark and the team was still playing at a historic pace I started to believe this team might be special. The fact that we were getting great pitching from not only the starters but the relievers led me to believe it might  be sustainable. 


Now, I'm starting  to wonder if this team can do some damage in the playoffs or if we will be seeing an early exit. Help me out here, what are you feeling? 




I believe they will hold on and win the division, but will lose HFA to the Astros. I expect they should win the ALDS, but then lose again to the Astros in the ALCS. Houston has superior pitching, as has been seen when they shut down the Yankees totally at YS. The Astros lineup is better overall and more balanced. They seem to be able to do enough vs Yankee pitching to get the wins. The Yankees hitting has been especially weak at Minute Maid, so losing HFA will be a big factor.

2 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2022 - 7:04PM #9
vdfebduderocks
Posts: 964

for far too long, the Yankees took a conservative approach to rehabbing injuries. It's why Rizzo missed like 5 games. Stanton's missed a month... yet at the same time we might be up there with Tampa for the most injuries to our pitching staff. Whatever we're doing isn't working.


When some of these players return, our entire division lead will have evaporated.

2 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2022 - 7:35PM #10
newinn
Posts: 38,827

Aug 10, 2022 -- 7:04PM, vdfebduderocks wrote:


for far too long, the Yankees took a conservative approach to rehabbing injuries. It's why Rizzo missed like 5 games. Stanton's missed a month... yet at the same time we might be up there with Tampa for the most injuries to our pitching staff. Whatever we're doing isn't working.


When some of these players return, our entire division lead will have evaporated.




Thanks, now that I know what's going to happen I don't have to watchUndecided

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