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Andujar claimed by the Pirates
5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 12:01PM #31
1955nyyfan
Posts: 4,248

Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:52AM, bumper wrote:


Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:24AM, Giancarlo wrote:


Well Joey Gallo had a hot start with the Dodgers and that hasn't gone so well.


But I wouldn't blame any hardcore Andujar fans if they wanted to leave the Yankee base and root instead for the Pirates.


In fact I'd wish them luck and hope they enjoy their new home on a Pirates message board.




don, you keep raising the bar for stoopid comments.




What's also interesting was this guy was always trying to convince us what a great player Gallo was when he was here and what a shrewd trade Cash made getting him. 

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 12:05PM #32
Paterson
Posts: 9,141


    For those interested:


www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/miguel-andu...

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 12:08PM #33
bumper
Posts: 13,174

Sep 27, 2022 -- 12:01PM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:52AM, bumper wrote:


Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:24AM, Giancarlo wrote:


Well Joey Gallo had a hot start with the Dodgers and that hasn't gone so well.


But I wouldn't blame any hardcore Andujar fans if they wanted to leave the Yankee base and root instead for the Pirates.


In fact I'd wish them luck and hope they enjoy their new home on a Pirates message board.




don, you keep raising the bar for stoopid comments.




What's also interesting was this guy was always trying to convince us what a great player Gallo was when he was here and what a shrewd trade Cash made getting him. 




for sure '55. he was constantly "defending" gallo so now he thinks by trashing andujar he can erase that. after his "hot" start, gallo's hitting .141 w just 3 HR and a 40.5% K rate over the last month. he's officially joined the chris davis as a guy who though he might hit 20-25 HRs, bats .150 w a 40% K rate.

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 1:33PM #34
Giancarlo
Posts: 2,415

Sep 27, 2022 -- 12:08PM, bumper wrote:


Sep 27, 2022 -- 12:01PM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:52AM, bumper wrote:


Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:24AM, Giancarlo wrote:


Well Joey Gallo had a hot start with the Dodgers and that hasn't gone so well.


But I wouldn't blame any hardcore Andujar fans if they wanted to leave the Yankee base and root instead for the Pirates.


In fact I'd wish them luck and hope they enjoy their new home on a Pirates message board.




don, you keep raising the bar for stoopid comments.




What's also interesting was this guy was always trying to convince us what a great player Gallo was when he was here and what a shrewd trade Cash made getting him. 




for sure '55. he was constantly "defending" gallo so now he thinks by trashing andujar he can erase that. after his "hot" start, gallo's hitting .141 w just 3 HR and a 40.5% K rate over the last month. he's officially joined the chris davis as a guy who though he might hit 20-25 HRs, bats .150 w a 40% K rate.




Does anyone miss any of the players Cashman dealt for Gallo?   I don't remember calling the trade "shrewd" but there was nothing wrong with it either.  And we got Clayton Beeter for Gallo and Beeter has done very well.


And yes, I did note that a low batting average guy with a lot of strikeouts can still be a plus player.  Joey's time in Texas proved that out.  He walked a ton, hit a ton of long dongs, and played excellent defense.


Has he lost it as a hitter?   Maybe.  He's still more valuable than Miggy because Miggy has no power, never walks, and can't play defense.   We found a taker for Gallo and got a good prospect back.   No one wanted Miggy.   The Dodgers are run extremely well and they wanted Gallo, not Miggy.


People suggesting that Miggy was the savior to replace Gallo were seriously misguided.   I maintained that if Gallo couldn't right the ship that they would make a trade close to the deadline rather than go with Miggy.  And what happened?  We traded for Benintendi.   And Cabrera has also opened some eyes and played better in 2022 than Miggy ever could have.


I still think that people who can't see past batting average and strikeouts aren't seeing the big picture.   And this board has a bevy of posters that think career batting average is the be-all end-all stat upon which to analyze players.   And many of those same posters are insufferable whiners who are never happy, even when the team was winning at a historic rate.   There's always something to cry about for the malcontents, and I do take some joy in countering their endless complaining and defending their whipping boy du jour.

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 1:38PM #35
manbot
Posts: 2,509

Sep 27, 2022 -- 10:24AM, Giancarlo wrote:


Well Joey Gallo had a hot start with the Dodgers and that hasn't gone so well.


But I wouldn't blame any hardcore Andujar fans if they wanted to leave the Yankee base and root instead for the Pirates.


In fact I'd wish them luck and hope they enjoy their new home on a Pirates message board.




You were the biggest proponent of Joey Gallo on this board ... LOL! 

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 2:12PM #36
Max
Posts: 11,339

Sep 26, 2022 -- 2:37PM, SSBob wrote:


Not sure what Pirates plan to do with Andujar. Obviously not 3B. I've always said he'd end up at 1B for someone...maybe some competition for Chavis. He's shown he can handle LF, maybe DH??




The Pirates gave up on 1Bman Tsutsugo and his .171 batting average and released him in early August. So the Pirates have room on their roster to see if Andujar can play 1B and hit major league pitching like he did before his injury. If not he can always play LF and DH as you mentioned. He signed for another year so the Pirates really have nothing to lose.


Kay mentioned that the Royals were interested in Andujar, but I guess they didn't get a chance to claim him off waivers.


I wish Andujar well. Anyway, he batted 3rd and DHed for the Pirates yesterday and went 1-3 with an RBI.

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 2:34PM #37
Paterson
Posts: 9,141


    Poking fun at a guy who has a $$$$ contract and made generational wealth from a few years of major league baseball is fair game. I can make all the smartazz comments in the world about Donaldson, Stanton, Hicks, Chapman or Cole. None of those guys will ever live in the world I do unless they do an extravordinary job of screwing up from today forward. And at that, I have a much better life than 96% of the people on this planet.


    Failure for guys like Andujar is very different. If you are going to be a critic, point your barbs at a guy with a fat wallet. It doesn't hurt when they get stuck. 

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 2:59PM #38
SSBob
Posts: 12,787

Sep 27, 2022 -- 2:12PM, Max wrote:


Sep 26, 2022 -- 2:37PM, SSBob wrote:


Not sure what Pirates plan to do with Andujar. Obviously not 3B. I've always said he'd end up at 1B for someone...maybe some competition for Chavis. He's shown he can handle LF, maybe DH??




The Pirates gave up on 1Bman Tsutsugo and his .171 batting average and released him in early August. So the Pirates have room on their roster to see if Andujar can play 1B and hit major league pitching like he did before his injury. If not he can always play LF and DH as you mentioned. He signed for another year so the Pirates really have nothing to lose.


Kay mentioned that the Royals were interested in Andujar, but I guess they didn't get a chance to claim him off waivers.


I wish Andujar well. Anyway, he batted 3rd and DHed for the Pirates yesterday and went 1-3 with an RBI.




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Chavis may hang on at 1B for Pirates, after Red Sox gave up on him and possibly Bobby Dalbec. Since Chavis hits HRs & he and Andujar are RH hitters I don't see a platoon situation there.


Royals could use some help at 1B since Santana is gone. Ironically, I had thought that Cleveland might be a good landing spot for Andujar when Santana left for KC. Now he's gone.


Wherever he lands, I wish him well. Talented player whose career's been derailed by injury.

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 3:00PM #39
Giancarlo
Posts: 2,415

Sep 27, 2022 -- 2:34PM, Paterson wrote:



    Poking fun at a guy who has a $$$$ contract and made generational wealth from a few years of major league baseball is fair game. I can make all the smartazz comments in the world about Donaldson, Stanton, Hicks, Chapman or Cole. None of those guys will ever live in the world I do unless they do an extravordinary job of screwing up from today forward. And at that, I have a much better life than 96% of the people on this planet.


    Failure for guys like Andujar is very different. If you are going to be a critic, point your barbs at a guy with a fat wallet. It doesn't hurt when they get stuck. 




I've been a critic of the idea that Andujar would be a Yankee savior. 


And as far as salary goes, it doesn't matter with the chronic complainers.  It's always lose-lose, the glass is always half empty.   If we didn't sign Cole they would have cried "Hal's too cheap!!  Sell the team Hal!".   If he's not Walter Johnson then he's an overpaid bum.   No one seems to enjoy the fact that he's about to break a long held Yankee strikeout record though.


It also has nothing to do with them as players.   I don't really care if they have dream lives financially.   They were able to get themselves to where they could command a contract like that.   You and I didn't do that.   I'm not going to hold it against them.


If we don't sign Judge they'll whine.  If we give him a mega deal and he's not hitting over 50 bombs a year, they'll complain he's overpaid.

5 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2022 - 3:00PM #40
manbot
Posts: 2,509

Sep 27, 2022 -- 2:12PM, Max wrote:


Sep 26, 2022 -- 2:37PM, SSBob wrote:


Not sure what Pirates plan to do with Andujar. Obviously not 3B. I've always said he'd end up at 1B for someone...maybe some competition for Chavis. He's shown he can handle LF, maybe DH??




The Pirates gave up on 1Bman Tsutsugo and his .171 batting average and released him in early August. So the Pirates have room on their roster to see if Andujar can play 1B and hit major league pitching like he did before his injury. If not he can always play LF and DH as you mentioned. He signed for another year so the Pirates really have nothing to lose.


Kay mentioned that the Royals were interested in Andujar, but I guess they didn't get a chance to claim him off waivers.


I wish Andujar well. Anyway, he batted 3rd and DHed for the Pirates yesterday and went 1-3 with an RBI.





LOL!!! Tsutsugo is the guy that GianGallo insisted that the Yankees had to go get   

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