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Florial likely to be traded
1 week ago  ::  Nov 23, 2022 - 9:10PM #1
Jon
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"Florial has been unable to carve out a role for himself at the MLB level. The 24-year-old made 17 appearances with the Yankees in 2022, hitting .097 with a 20% on-base rate. He struck out at a 37.1% clip, a terrible number that showcases a lack of discipline. His inability to transfer to a higher level has put him on the back burner, which likely means that Cashman will try to trade him as a smaller piece in a bigger deal."
1 week ago  ::  Nov 24, 2022 - 9:06AM #2
Rob
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Nov 23, 2022 -- 9:10PM, Jon wrote:

empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/o... "Florial has been unable to carve out a role for himself at the MLB level. The 24-year-old made 17 appearances with the Yankees in 2022, hitting .097 with a 20% on-base rate. He struck out at a 37.1% clip, a terrible number that showcases a lack of discipline. His inability to transfer to a higher level has put him on the back burner, which likely means that Cashman will try to trade him as a smaller piece in a bigger deal."



 Maybe dangle him as a way to entice some team to take Donaldson and/or Hicks???

1 week ago  ::  Nov 24, 2022 - 10:00AM #3
hampfan
Posts: 3,757

Nov 24, 2022 -- 9:06AM, Rob wrote:


Nov 23, 2022 -- 9:10PM, Jon wrote:

empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/o... "Florial has been unable to carve out a role for himself at the MLB level. The 24-year-old made 17 appearances with the Yankees in 2022, hitting .097 with a 20% on-base rate. He struck out at a 37.1% clip, a terrible number that showcases a lack of discipline. His inability to transfer to a higher level has put him on the back burner, which likely means that Cashman will try to trade him as a smaller piece in a bigger deal."



 Maybe dangle him as a way to entice some team to take Donaldson and/or Hicks???




Maybe Florial made 17 appearances, but they were so scattered and brief that he had no chance to show his wares--besides being no doubt anxious to show he belonged and therefore pressing.. Yeah, he struck out a lot at AAA besides the rare times he was in our lineup as a full-game player, but he had learned to hit opposing AAA pitchers pretty well--in fact I believe he led the team in BA for a good while. He's also a spendid outfielder. I do hope he gets traded to a team that will give him a chance to play daily and in that way get into some kind of offensive, non-anxious rhythm.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 24, 2022 - 12:41PM #4
manbot
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This is the Yankee way ... destroy their young prospects value and then trade them for a fraction of their original value 


They should have been pumping Florial up instead of wasting time on players like Marwin Gonzalez and Tim locastro who never had or never would have any value to the Yankees. 


1 week ago  ::  Nov 24, 2022 - 1:41PM #5
NW
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Nov 24, 2022 -- 12:41PM, manbot wrote:


This is the Yankee way ... destroy their young prospects value and then trade them for a fraction of their original value 


They should have been pumping Florial up instead of wasting time on players like Marwin Gonzalez and Tim locastro who never had or never would have any value to the Yankees. 





At this point, there's no room for him, even if he ends up getting better.  If they can get something in a trade, or even free up a 40 man spot, it would be worthwhile.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 24, 2022 - 4:16PM #6
FW57Clipper51
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I think that he will be part of a Yankees player trade package, because if he stays at AAA level in 2023, he'll be ready for the 2023 MLB Rule 5 Player draft. I think that he is very overated as a young player.



Clipper




1 week ago  ::  Nov 24, 2022 - 6:49PM #7
hampfan
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Nov 24, 2022 -- 4:16PM, FW57Clipper51 wrote:


I think that he will be part of a Yankees player trade package, because if he stays at AAA level in 2023, he'll be ready for the 2023 MLB Rule 5 Player draft. I think that he is very overated as a young player.



Clipper







I don't. Why did the Yankee system nurture him so long if he was judged as inadequate or mediocre? No one really knows how good or not a player can be if he has the raw talent, for which the Yankees originally drafted him, and he's given a fair chance to show it. He'd have been overrated if he took over and failed in the OF compared with the likes of the downhill sliding Gonzalez who remained on the team through thick and thin mediocrity.

1 week ago  ::  Nov 25, 2022 - 7:33AM #8
yankoldfan
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Nov 24, 2022 -- 6:49PM, hampfan wrote:


Nov 24, 2022 -- 4:16PM, FW57Clipper51 wrote:


I think that he will be part of a Yankees player trade package, because if he stays at AAA level in 2023, he'll be ready for the 2023 MLB Rule 5 Player draft. I think that he is very overated as a young player.



Clipper







I don't. Why did the Yankee system nurture him so long if he was judged as inadequate or mediocre? No one really knows how good or not a player can be if he has the raw talent, for which the Yankees originally drafted him, and he's given a fair chance to show it. He'd have been overrated if he took over and failed in the OF compared with the likes of the downhill sliding Gonzalez who remained on the team through thick and thin mediocrity.




At one time he was one of the Yankees top prospects, when he actually had some value, they should have traded him... Now they've proved that he isn't good enough to play for them, they put him on the market and most likely will get nothing for him ???

1 week ago  ::  Nov 25, 2022 - 10:17AM #9
Rob
Posts: 3,300

Nov 25, 2022 -- 7:33AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Nov 24, 2022 -- 6:49PM, hampfan wrote:


Nov 24, 2022 -- 4:16PM, FW57Clipper51 wrote:


I think that he will be part of a Yankees player trade package, because if he stays at AAA level in 2023, he'll be ready for the 2023 MLB Rule 5 Player draft. I think that he is very overated as a young player.



Clipper







I don't. Why did the Yankee system nurture him so long if he was judged as inadequate or mediocre? No one really knows how good or not a player can be if he has the raw talent, for which the Yankees originally drafted him, and he's given a fair chance to show it. He'd have been overrated if he took over and failed in the OF compared with the likes of the downhill sliding Gonzalez who remained on the team through thick and thin mediocrity.




At one time he was one of the Yankees top prospects, when he actually had some value, they should have traded him... Now they've proved that he isn't good enough to play for them, they put him on the market and most likely will get nothing for him ???




wash, rinse, repeat

1 week ago  ::  Nov 25, 2022 - 10:28AM #10
1955nyyfan
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Nov 25, 2022 -- 10:17AM, Rob wrote:


Nov 25, 2022 -- 7:33AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Nov 24, 2022 -- 6:49PM, hampfan wrote:


Nov 24, 2022 -- 4:16PM, FW57Clipper51 wrote:


I think that he will be part of a Yankees player trade package, because if he stays at AAA level in 2023, he'll be ready for the 2023 MLB Rule 5 Player draft. I think that he is very overated as a young player.



Clipper







I don't. Why did the Yankee system nurture him so long if he was judged as inadequate or mediocre? No one really knows how good or not a player can be if he has the raw talent, for which the Yankees originally drafted him, and he's given a fair chance to show it. He'd have been overrated if he took over and failed in the OF compared with the likes of the downhill sliding Gonzalez who remained on the team through thick and thin mediocrity.




At one time he was one of the Yankees top prospects, when he actually had some value, they should have traded him... Now they've proved that he isn't good enough to play for them, they put him on the market and most likely will get nothing for him ???




wash, rinse, repeat




It's a tough call. a lot of top prospects never develop into the players we hope they will be. A young Florial checked alot of boxes, LH hitting CFer with good speed, pretty good defense and a good arm. Injuries set him back a bit but I was always a bit surprised he didn't get more of a shot. Yankee development staff must feel like he wont overcome swing and miss tendancies. I don't fault them for betting on his upside, even though it appears they will lose the bet. Also I ycan't help wondering if organizational focus on launch angle and exit velo has contributed to his lack of improvement as a hitter. 

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