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4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 8:55AM #1
NW
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Hal opened up the checkbook to give Judge $40M per year.  The number seems huge and will probably hurt on the back end but the truth is, the Yankees as a company are already guaranteed to see that value economically for the first few years at least.


The question becomes, what is next?  He's made a financial decision that helps the company but may hurt the on-field performance down the road.  In year 9, he may get an Aaron Judge farewell tour that might help boost revenue again, but that's neither here nor there.  Hal has proven that he'll make a good company decision but is he truly all in to make good baseball decisions?  These next few weeks will be very telling because right now, the team is weaker in 2023 than the one they fielded in 2022.

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 8:57AM #2
manbot
Posts: 2,652

 NOw Get your ass on the phone with SanFran and offer them Stanton while they have their wallets open!

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 9:03AM #3
NW
Posts: 5,080

Dec 7, 2022 -- 8:57AM, manbot wrote:


 NOw Get your ass on the phone with SanFran and offer them Stanton while they have their wallets open!




Do you really think Stanton would approve a move to San Francisco?  I would imagine he might approve a move to sunny southern California, but he isn't going to NoCal to die a painless baseball death.

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 10:06AM #4
bruner4329
Posts: 4,975

Dec 7, 2022 -- 8:55AM, NW wrote:


Hal opened up the checkbook to give Judge $40M per year.  The number seems huge and will probably hurt on the back end but the truth is, the Yankees as a company are already guaranteed to see that value economically for the first few years at least.


The question becomes, what is next?  He's made a financial decision that helps the company but may hurt the on-field performance down the road.  In year 9, he may get an Aaron Judge farewell tour that might help boost revenue again, but that's neither here nor there.  Hal has proven that he'll make a good company decision but is he truly all in to make good baseball decisions?  These next few weeks will be very telling because right now, the team is weaker in 2023 than the one they fielded in 2022.




How are they weaker? If anything it is a wash so far. Who have we really lost that was a difference maker? Taillon, Carpenter? I think they can be replaced. The key to making them better is dumping Hicks and Donaldson if possible. I also believe Peraza at short may ultimately be an upgrade from IKF. No doubt there are some holes to fill but they were there this past season as well.

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 10:13AM #5
1955nyyfan
Posts: 4,284

Dec 7, 2022 -- 10:06AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Dec 7, 2022 -- 8:55AM, NW wrote:


Hal opened up the checkbook to give Judge $40M per year.  The number seems huge and will probably hurt on the back end but the truth is, the Yankees as a company are already guaranteed to see that value economically for the first few years at least.


The question becomes, what is next?  He's made a financial decision that helps the company but may hurt the on-field performance down the road.  In year 9, he may get an Aaron Judge farewell tour that might help boost revenue again, but that's neither here nor there.  Hal has proven that he'll make a good company decision but is he truly all in to make good baseball decisions?  These next few weeks will be very telling because right now, the team is weaker in 2023 than the one they fielded in 2022.




How are they weaker? If anything it is a wash so far. Who have we really lost that was a difference maker? Taillon, Carpenter? I think they can be replaced. The key to making them better is dumping Hicks and Donaldson if possible. I also believe Peraza at short may ultimately be an upgrade from IKF. No doubt there are some holes to fill but they were there this past season as well.




I also think a full year of Bader is an upgrade. As it stands right now, I think there is a chance we see a more balanced club and if we get good production from some of the kids we could see a better product. I don't think we're done yet. It will also help if Sevy remains healthy and Montas returns to form. I do think we will see some falloff in Judge's performance, hard to imagine he will put up the same numbers but he should still be very productive. Still work to do but with a couple smart moves we should be improved. 

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 12:25PM #6
NW
Posts: 5,080

Dec 7, 2022 -- 10:06AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Dec 7, 2022 -- 8:55AM, NW wrote:


Hal opened up the checkbook to give Judge $40M per year.  The number seems huge and will probably hurt on the back end but the truth is, the Yankees as a company are already guaranteed to see that value economically for the first few years at least.


The question becomes, what is next?  He's made a financial decision that helps the company but may hurt the on-field performance down the road.  In year 9, he may get an Aaron Judge farewell tour that might help boost revenue again, but that's neither here nor there.  Hal has proven that he'll make a good company decision but is he truly all in to make good baseball decisions?  These next few weeks will be very telling because right now, the team is weaker in 2023 than the one they fielded in 2022.




How are they weaker? If anything it is a wash so far. Who have we really lost that was a difference maker? Taillon, Carpenter? I think they can be replaced. The key to making them better is dumping Hicks and Donaldson if possible. I also believe Peraza at short may ultimately be an upgrade from IKF. No doubt there are some holes to fill but they were there this past season as well.




The loss of Taillon was big.  Castro for Kahnle is a wash.  Carpenter's loss isn't huge but there's thus far been no replacement of his contributions.  So, yes, the team is behind where it was in 2022.  

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 1:36PM #7
Giancarlo
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Rodon would be a great signing.   They may shed both Sevy and Montas after 2023 (and will shed Donaldson), so long term hopefully they can fit him in budget-wise.   For one year I would like to see Hal go balls-out with regards to the budget and not be so concerned with the luxury tax.


I also want Yoshida (or some other LH OF'er).   Feel like he has the most upside amongst FA OFs as a hitter, and is the exact type of hitter they need.


Plus how fun would it be to have Judge and the 5'8" Yoshida on the same team?   You'd get some of that Big Toe size difference/chemistry going again.

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 2:25PM #8
manbot
Posts: 2,652

Dec 7, 2022 -- 10:06AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Dec 7, 2022 -- 8:55AM, NW wrote:


Hal opened up the checkbook to give Judge $40M per year.  The number seems huge and will probably hurt on the back end but the truth is, the Yankees as a company are already guaranteed to see that value economically for the first few years at least.


The question becomes, what is next?  He's made a financial decision that helps the company but may hurt the on-field performance down the road.  In year 9, he may get an Aaron Judge farewell tour that might help boost revenue again, but that's neither here nor there.  Hal has proven that he'll make a good company decision but is he truly all in to make good baseball decisions?  These next few weeks will be very telling because right now, the team is weaker in 2023 than the one they fielded in 2022.




How are they weaker? If anything it is a wash so far. Who have we really lost that was a difference maker? Taillon, Carpenter? I think they can be replaced. The key to making them better is dumping Hicks and Donaldson if possible. I also believe Peraza at short may ultimately be an upgrade from IKF. No doubt there are some holes to fill but they were there this past season as well.




Taillon was 2nd on the team with 177 inn pitched ... They also lost Montgomery who accounted for 114 inn who  have ended up with 178 innings


So they have 350 innings to make up with German and Montas ... but there is no depth at all in this questionable rotation  

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 2:29PM #9
dixieyank
Posts: 6,994

Dec 7, 2022 -- 2:25PM, manbot wrote:



Taillon was 2nd on the team with 177 inn pitched ... They also lost Montgomery who accounted for 114 inn who  have ended up with 178 innings


So they have 350 innings to make up with German and Montas ... but there is no depth at all in this questionable rotation  




OH shut up JG Wentworth! We know you want it now!!

4 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2022 - 3:21PM #10
Giancarlo
Posts: 2,840

Dec 7, 2022 -- 2:29PM, dixieyank wrote:


Dec 7, 2022 -- 2:25PM, manbot wrote:



Taillon was 2nd on the team with 177 inn pitched ... They also lost Montgomery who accounted for 114 inn who  have ended up with 178 innings


So they have 350 innings to make up with German and Montas ... but there is no depth at all in this questionable rotation  




OH shut up JG Wentworth! We know you want it now!!




Makes you appreciate Cole and his 200.2 IP that much more.


Internally they also have Schmidt and maybe Randy Vasquez will be ready at some point in 2023.


Plus I am sure they'll bring a depth arm or two in with ST invites.


I would feel a lot better with Rodon or Senga in the mix.   A potential post season difference maker would be a great get.

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