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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2023 - 9:47PM #31
jimwest
Posts: 5,280

Feb 5, 2023 -- 5:51PM, xnewyorker wrote:


DJ has a limited no-trade protection for 2023-26 allowing LeMaheiu to block deals to five clubs.


He will become a 10 and 5 player after 2023 and block any deals.




Which is why, if the Yanks have any idea of trying to trade him, they need to do it before the end of this season.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 11:47AM #32
Max
Posts: 11,440

Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:16PM, manbot wrote:



You keep talking about this Middle infield strength of the Yankees ... The only strong part about it at the moment is Gleyber.

  • Peraza is unproven and was never the prospect that Gleyber is ... I highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively 
  • DJ is going to be 35 - He's injured and his health is a question mark ... He is also the backup 1st and 3rd baseman 
  • Volpe is unproven and probably going to start the year in the Minors
  • Sweeney ... I'd be willing to bet never plays a game for the Yankees  
  • Donaldson will be gone after this season and either Gleyber or Volpe will be the favorite to take over 3rd 

It's not a strength ... at least not yet, We will know more in a year


Using your logic I could argue LF is a strength 


We have Hicks, Cabrera, Stanton, Pereira and Dominguez why the hell would trade for a LFer ???


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That wouldn't be my logic at all. I'm not confusing quantity with quality. First off, Volpe is closer to being MLB ready than Pereira and Dominguez. He's also rated higher than both of them right now. DJ shouldn't be confused with Hicks. Stanton isn't an everyday LFer. It also appears that the Yankees want Cabrera in a super utility role. So you can add him as another middle infielder that the Yankees have on their roster.


The Yankees must agree that their middle infield depth is their strength since they tried to trade Torres to the Marlins for Lopez.


I don't know if Sweeney will play for the Yankees or not, but the fact remains he is another infield prospect that the Yankees have. Torres like all MLB players was at one time unproven. Peraza and Volpe are rated high, so there comes a time when a team is going to trust some of their prospects. DJ is under contract and on the Yankees roster so he's going to play. The Yankees aren't going to have a 15 million dollar player on their bench.


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B. In my opinion 3B will be DJ's in 2024 if Volpe is the Yankees starting 2B next season, or if Donaldson gets traded this season.


You might  highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively, but the Yankees might not feel that way. My posts about Torres aren't what I want the Yankees to do, those posts are what I think the Yankees will do. As mentioned before, I rather they trade DJ and resign Torres and have either him or Volpe play 3B. I have also said many times that DJ and Torres are my favorite Yankees. But again, the luxury tax is what it is and the roster is what it is. Torres will bring back more in a trade than DJ and his contract going to get more expensive. 

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 12:21PM #33
manbot
Posts: 3,032

Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:16PM, manbot wrote:



You keep talking about this Middle infield strength of the Yankees ... The only strong part about it at the moment is Gleyber.

  • Peraza is unproven and was never the prospect that Gleyber is ... I highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively 
  • DJ is going to be 35 - He's injured and his health is a question mark ... He is also the backup 1st and 3rd baseman 
  • Volpe is unproven and probably going to start the year in the Minors
  • Sweeney ... I'd be willing to bet never plays a game for the Yankees  
  • Donaldson will be gone after this season and either Gleyber or Volpe will be the favorite to take over 3rd 

It's not a strength ... at least not yet, We will know more in a year


Using your logic I could argue LF is a strength 


We have Hicks, Cabrera, Stanton, Pereira and Dominguez why the hell would trade for a LFer ???


_________________________________________________________________________________________________




That wouldn't be my logic at all. I'm not confusing quantity with quality. First off, Volpe is closer to being MLB ready than Pereira and Dominguez. He's also rated higher than both of them right now. DJ shouldn't be confused with Hicks. Stanton isn't an everyday LFer. It also appears that the Yankees want Cabrera in a super utility role. So you can add him as another middle infielder that the Yankees have on their roster.


The Yankees must agree that their middle infield depth is their strength since they tried to trade Torres to the Marlins for Lopez.


I don't know if Sweeney will play for the Yankees or not, but the fact remains he is another infield prospect that the Yankees have. Torres like all MLB players was at one time unproven. Peraza and Volpe are rated high, so there comes a time when a team is going to trust some of their prospects. DJ is under contract and on the Yankees roster so he's going to play. The Yankees aren't going to have a 15 million dollar player on their bench.


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B. In my opinion 3B will be DJ's in 2024 if Volpe is the Yankees starting 2B next season, or if Donaldson gets traded this season.


You might  highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively, but the Yankees might not feel that way. My posts about Torres aren't what I want the Yankees to do, those posts are what I think the Yankees will do. As mentioned before, I rather they trade DJ and resign Torres and have either him or Volpe play 3B. I have also said many times that DJ and Torres are my favorite Yankees. But again, the luxury tax is what it is and the roster is what it is. Torres will bring back more in a trade than DJ and his contract going to get more expensive. 



  • First off, Volpe is closer to being MLB ready than Pereira - Maybe ... Yankees need a LFer more than they need a 2nd baseman right now
  • They tried to trade Torres to the Marlins for Lopez - The Marlins waanted Gleyber and the Yankees said no Thanks 
  • The Yankees aren't going to have a 15 million dollar player on their bench - DJ is going to play 3rd, 1st, 2nd and DH ... If he is healthy
  • In my opinion 3B will be DJ's in 2024 - DJ will be 36 in '24 and has never started more than 47 games at 3rd base in a season and that was as an injury fill-in. DJ will never be a full time 3rd baseman at this point in his career.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 12:21PM #34
Jon
Posts: 7,653

Gleyber? Strong?


Sure, just like Gary Sanchez.


https://media.tenor.com/NvblQJR-ABwAAAAM/lmfao-laughing.gif



He can't feast on Oriole pitching anymore.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 12:22PM #35
Giancarlo
Posts: 3,581

Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:16PM, manbot wrote:



You keep talking about this Middle infield strength of the Yankees ... The only strong part about it at the moment is Gleyber.

  • Peraza is unproven and was never the prospect that Gleyber is ... I highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively 
  • DJ is going to be 35 - He's injured and his health is a question mark ... He is also the backup 1st and 3rd baseman 
  • Volpe is unproven and probably going to start the year in the Minors
  • Sweeney ... I'd be willing to bet never plays a game for the Yankees  
  • Donaldson will be gone after this season and either Gleyber or Volpe will be the favorite to take over 3rd 

It's not a strength ... at least not yet, We will know more in a year


Using your logic I could argue LF is a strength 


We have Hicks, Cabrera, Stanton, Pereira and Dominguez why the hell would trade for a LFer ???


_________________________________________________________________________________________________




That wouldn't be my logic at all. I'm not confusing quantity with quality. First off, Volpe is closer to being MLB ready than Pereira and Dominguez. He's also rated higher than both of them right now. DJ shouldn't be confused with Hicks. Stanton isn't an everyday LFer. It also appears that the Yankees want Cabrera in a super utility role. So you can add him as another middle infielder that the Yankees have on their roster.


The Yankees must agree that their middle infield depth is their strength since they tried to trade Torres to the Marlins for Lopez.


I don't know if Sweeney will play for the Yankees or not, but the fact remains he is another infield prospect that the Yankees have. Torres like all MLB players was at one time unproven. Peraza and Volpe are rated high, so there comes a time when a team is going to trust some of their prospects. DJ is under contract and on the Yankees roster so he's going to play. The Yankees aren't going to have a 15 million dollar player on their bench.


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B. In my opinion 3B will be DJ's in 2024 if Volpe is the Yankees starting 2B next season, or if Donaldson gets traded this season.


You might  highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively, but the Yankees might not feel that way. My posts about Torres aren't what I want the Yankees to do, those posts are what I think the Yankees will do. As mentioned before, I rather they trade DJ and resign Torres and have either him or Volpe play 3B. I have also said many times that DJ and Torres are my favorite Yankees. But again, the luxury tax is what it is and the roster is what it is. Torres will bring back more in a trade than DJ and his contract going to get more expensive. 




Doesn't really matter if Peraza can't hit like Gleyber (he will be a better baserunner/stealer though).   Gleyber is a failure at SS and Peraza is an excellent defensive SS.   Someone has to play SS.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 12:50PM #36
SSBob
Posts: 13,519

Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B.




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Haven't seen Yanks make a definitive statement re moving Gleyber to 3B, and wouldn't expect them to. But, just as many talent evaluators project Volpe moving to 2B, many pegged prospect Gleyber to eventually move to 3B due to his strong arm, relative lack of range and thickening lower body. I believe he'd be there today if Yanks hadn't found a pleasant surprise in Urshela.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 12:57PM #37
Paterson
Posts: 9,483

Feb 6, 2023 -- 12:50PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Haven't seen Yanks make a definitive statement re moving Gleyber to 3B, and wouldn't expect them to. But, just as many talent evaluators project Volpe moving to 2B, many pegged prospect Gleyber to eventually move to 3B due to his strong arm, relative lack of range and thickening lower body. I believe he'd be there today if Yanks hadn't found a pleasant surprise in Urshela.




     Was it finding Urshela or trading for Donalson that kep Torres off third ?  

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 12:57PM #38
manbot
Posts: 3,032

Feb 6, 2023 -- 12:22PM, Giancarlo wrote:


Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:16PM, manbot wrote:



You keep talking about this Middle infield strength of the Yankees ... The only strong part about it at the moment is Gleyber.

  • Peraza is unproven and was never the prospect that Gleyber is ... I highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively 
  • DJ is going to be 35 - He's injured and his health is a question mark ... He is also the backup 1st and 3rd baseman 
  • Volpe is unproven and probably going to start the year in the Minors
  • Sweeney ... I'd be willing to bet never plays a game for the Yankees  
  • Donaldson will be gone after this season and either Gleyber or Volpe will be the favorite to take over 3rd 

It's not a strength ... at least not yet, We will know more in a year


Using your logic I could argue LF is a strength 


We have Hicks, Cabrera, Stanton, Pereira and Dominguez why the hell would trade for a LFer ???


_________________________________________________________________________________________________




That wouldn't be my logic at all. I'm not confusing quantity with quality. First off, Volpe is closer to being MLB ready than Pereira and Dominguez. He's also rated higher than both of them right now. DJ shouldn't be confused with Hicks. Stanton isn't an everyday LFer. It also appears that the Yankees want Cabrera in a super utility role. So you can add him as another middle infielder that the Yankees have on their roster.


The Yankees must agree that their middle infield depth is their strength since they tried to trade Torres to the Marlins for Lopez.


I don't know if Sweeney will play for the Yankees or not, but the fact remains he is another infield prospect that the Yankees have. Torres like all MLB players was at one time unproven. Peraza and Volpe are rated high, so there comes a time when a team is going to trust some of their prospects. DJ is under contract and on the Yankees roster so he's going to play. The Yankees aren't going to have a 15 million dollar player on their bench.


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B. In my opinion 3B will be DJ's in 2024 if Volpe is the Yankees starting 2B next season, or if Donaldson gets traded this season.


You might  highly doubt Peraza will ever be as good as Gleyber offensively, but the Yankees might not feel that way. My posts about Torres aren't what I want the Yankees to do, those posts are what I think the Yankees will do. As mentioned before, I rather they trade DJ and resign Torres and have either him or Volpe play 3B. I have also said many times that DJ and Torres are my favorite Yankees. But again, the luxury tax is what it is and the roster is what it is. Torres will bring back more in a trade than DJ and his contract going to get more expensive. 




Doesn't really matter if Peraza can't hit like Gleyber (he will be a better baserunner/stealer though).   Gleyber is a failure at SS and Peraza is an excellent defensive SS.   Someone has to play SS.




Why doesnt it matter ... Offense no longer counts in baseball? If that's the case we are we all so high on Volpe who has the lowest filed: grade and arm: grade of all of them? Like I said Gleyber was every bit the prospect that Volpe and Peraza are ... and he is doing it at a high level in the MLB. The other two are ... prospects 


 


Here's the scouting Grades ...


Scouting grades: Hit: 70 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 65 - Gleyber 


Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 55 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 - Volpe 


Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 50 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 60 | Overall: 55 - Peraza 


And I will add that Gleyber was at least a year younger than both of them when he made it to the MLB ... Let have a little respect for a guy that has proven it 

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 1:03PM #39
SSBob
Posts: 13,519

Feb 6, 2023 -- 12:57PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 6, 2023 -- 12:50PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Haven't seen Yanks make a definitive statement re moving Gleyber to 3B, and wouldn't expect them to. But, just as many talent evaluators project Volpe moving to 2B, many pegged prospect Gleyber to eventually move to 3B due to his strong arm, relative lack of range and thickening lower body. I believe he'd be there today if Yanks hadn't found a pleasant surprise in Urshela.




     Was it finding Urshela or trading for Donalson that kep Torres off third ?  




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Urshela established himself as a GG caliber 3B long before Donaldson came onto the scene. Had Gio turned out to be a plug-in at 3B the Donaldson trade likely wouldn't have been made & Gleyber would be there today.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 1:19PM #40
manbot
Posts: 3,032

Feb 6, 2023 -- 12:57PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 6, 2023 -- 12:50PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 6, 2023 -- 11:47AM, Max wrote:


It's not a bad idea,  but other than on this message board, I haven't heard the Yankees having any plans to move Torres to 3B.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Haven't seen Yanks make a definitive statement re moving Gleyber to 3B, and wouldn't expect them to. But, just as many talent evaluators project Volpe moving to 2B, many pegged prospect Gleyber to eventually move to 3B due to his strong arm, relative lack of range and thickening lower body. I believe he'd be there today if Yanks hadn't found a pleasant surprise in Urshela.




     Was it finding Urshela or trading for Donalson that kep Torres off third ?  




Do you watch the games or just make weird comments ... Gleyber came up as a 2nd baseman and was moved to SS when Didi was injured. He was RoY-3 - behind Andujar RoY-2 (who was the 3rd baseman) and some nobody named Ohtani (RoY-1) 


 

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