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4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2023 - 12:32PM #21
1955nyyfan
Posts: 4,434

Feb 5, 2023 -- 12:15PM, bruner4329 wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 11:12PM, 1955nyyfan wrote:

Curious where the story about Montas maybe needing surgery was. I haven't seen that reported anywhere. I was under the impression he was throwing but behind schedule.



www.reddit.com/r/NYYankees/comments/10tm...




OK, thanks. I guess the ggod news is that no one seems to think the reporter is a reliable source. 

4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2023 - 1:35PM #22
bumper
Posts: 13,580

Feb 5, 2023 -- 12:32PM, 1955nyyfan wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 12:15PM, bruner4329 wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 11:12PM, 1955nyyfan wrote:

Curious where the story about Montas maybe needing surgery was. I haven't seen that reported anywhere. I was under the impression he was throwing but behind schedule.



www.reddit.com/r/NYYankees/comments/10tm...




OK, thanks. I guess the ggod news is that no one seems to think the reporter is a reliable source. 




yeah we'll know for sure in a week or so when pitchers and catchers report.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2023 - 2:05PM #23
Max
Posts: 11,440

Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




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Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 

4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2023 - 6:37PM #24
Paterson
Posts: 9,488

Feb 5, 2023 -- 2:05PM, Max wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 




  I am still a fan of one set of rules for everyone. Once you make case by case decisions, your motives are questioned. Is representing the DR less important than representing the USA ?  Maybe not to Luis Severino and his family/ 

4 months ago  ::  Feb 05, 2023 - 10:50PM #25
manbot
Posts: 3,033

Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:37PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 2:05PM, Max wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 




  I am still a fan of one set of rules for everyone. Once you make case by case decisions, your motives are questioned. Is representing the DR less important than representing the USA ?  Maybe not to Luis Severino and his family/ 




Would Severino and his family be willing to tear up his contract if he got injured representing DR?


I bet the contract means more to him and his family then representing DR

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 9:40AM #26
Paterson
Posts: 9,488

Feb 5, 2023 -- 10:50PM, manbot wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:37PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 2:05PM, Max wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 




  I am still a fan of one set of rules for everyone. Once you make case by case decisions, your motives are questioned. Is representing the DR less important than representing the USA ?  Maybe not to Luis Severino and his family/ 




Would Severino and his family be willing to tear up his contract if he got injured representing DR?


I bet the contract means more to him and his family then representing DR




    If MLB wants the WBC to be a big deal, it needs to address that issue.  Everyone should play by one set of rules.  

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 10:24AM #27
Rob
Posts: 3,629

Feb 5, 2023 -- 10:50PM, manbot wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:37PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 2:05PM, Max wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 




  I am still a fan of one set of rules for everyone. Once you make case by case decisions, your motives are questioned. Is representing the DR less important than representing the USA ?  Maybe not to Luis Severino and his family/ 




Would Severino and his family be willing to tear up his contract if he got injured representing DR?


I bet the contract means more to him and his family then representing DR




As I understand it the WBC is a joint MLB-players union event so it is not the same thing, but Aaron Boone had his contract voided when he injured his knee playing pickup basketball.  I guarantee you there would be no WBC if teams could void the contract of any player who got inured participating in it.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 10:55AM #28
Rob
Posts: 3,629

Feb 5, 2023 -- 2:05PM, Max wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 




Cashman was absolutely right in blocking Severino  from participating in the WBC given his past injury history and the likelihood that he will have some sort of innings limit.  Sometimes children have to be told not to touch a hot stove.  My point in stsarting this thread was not whether Cashman was right or wrong, only to bring up the possibility/likelihood Severino will enter FA with a chip on his shoulder as regards the Yankee FO.

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 10:58AM #29
1955nyyfan
Posts: 4,434

I was fine with Cashman's explaination why he didn't want Sevy to pitch. He stated he wanted him to ramp up slowly and avoid early competitive innings to increase the liklihood he stays healthy this season. I think it would be hard to argue with that reasoning. I'm not sure you can treat all professional athletes exactly the same because their situations are different. As long as there is logic behind a decison and it's explained to the player I'm ok with it. I wish Cortez wasn't pitching either but thats because I'm a bigger fan of the Yanks than the WBC and don't want to see even a small chance of injury. 

4 months ago  ::  Feb 06, 2023 - 11:01AM #30
Giancarlo
Posts: 3,587

Feb 5, 2023 -- 6:37PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 5, 2023 -- 2:05PM, Max wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 8:52PM, Paterson wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:36PM, SSBob wrote:


Feb 4, 2023 -- 1:11PM, Paterson wrote:


   I am not a fan of the WBC and this is a big reason why. In a world where every pitch is tracked, recorded and analyzed, I don't hink I'd want my pitchers competing in tournament games. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Looking forward to seeing Nasty Nestor there in a few weeks.




    If Severino is ticked off at Cashman for beig selective in his decision making...I get it. 




Cashman would be right in having selective decision making since Cortes wasn't on the IR for better part of the 2019, 2021 seasons. Severino also missed the entire 2020 season. Plus, for the 2023 season Severino is probably going to be on an innings limit since he only pitched 113 innings total last season. 




  I am still a fan of one set of rules for everyone. Once you make case by case decisions, your motives are questioned. Is representing the DR less important than representing the USA ?  Maybe not to Luis Severino and his family/ 




He's earned 32.75 million to pitch 108 innings since 2020.   He and his family are set up for life because of that money, and he's got 15 million more coming to him in 2023.


The Yankees have WS aspirations for 2023 and a healthy Severino is a big part of that push.


I am on the Yankees side here, 100%.   If he wants to support the DR he can donate to their team, he has the dough to spare.

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